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by **Pacino86845** on Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:23 pm

I was just starting to get worried that Swearengen was too soft this season when he cuts someone's throat and declares himself commander of the cocksucker brigade!

Good ol' Al!

by **Pacino86845** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:50 am

I think it's also funny that you guys drew a connection between Deadwood and the Venture Bros. for the eye being pulled out of its socket (Dr. Venture and Turner)...

Anyone notice how in some ways, Swearengen is very similar to Brock Samson?

Both characters are no nonsense ruffians, and neither has been shown to use a gun, only knives.

by **StaffInfection** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:51 am

Now that's the Swearengen I know and love! Great episode. Btw, I loved the last scene where Seth was so angry about the Alma situation he couldn't speak. Shit is about to go down!

by **ONeillSG1** on Wed Aug 16, 2006 10:14 am

Pacino86845 wrote:I was just starting to get worried that Swearengen was too soft this season when he cuts someone's throat and declares himself commander of the cocksucker brigade!

Good ol' Al!

I <3 Al. He's dreamy.

by **Flumm** on Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:46 pm

It took me a whiles before I was in teh position to do so, but it seems my Deadwood Season 1 "giftbasket" has just finished " ripening", and after installing the appropriate "thingy", it seems to be "working" without a "hitch".

w00t!

This Sunday may well be slightly less sucksome than legend foretells.

by **John-Locke** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:31 am

Some questions

Where did Bullock go in the last episode? No mention was made in the previous episode was it? Was he escorting Wyatt Earp from the camp or sorting out some reinforcements of his own perhaps?

Anyone think we'll get to see Wyatt again?

Who thinks Steve is going to make some kind of recovery?

Did anyone else think Jack Langrishe was Dumbledore? I know the character was written that way at first because I linked to a story about him this time last year.

Who thinks we'll finally get to see Adams doing something badass? Is he badass? I certainly hope so.

Any predictions as to what Mose Manuel (Pruitt Taylor Vince - The studly guy from Identity & Heavy) is in the show for? He's not really had much to do yet and I'd be suprised if they got an actor of his caliber in the show just to scare off Tolliver once.

The problem with Deadwood is it's taken about 8 episodes to find it's groove this season and by then the season is almost over, I still love the show but I fear there may be too much set up and not enough pay off.

by **TonyWilson** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:38 am

I'm pretty sure Bullock went to Yankton or perhaps Dakota for something to do with the elections. I might be wrong though.

I know what you mean about this being all build up, it's great great build up and there have been some amazing moments, but I'm wondering if the Hearst saga is going to be tied up in the next 2 eps or whether we are going to have to wait for the hbo movies for a conclusion to that part of the story.

The Wyatt Earp thing seemed really strange. I mean why have a legend of the west show up for one epsiode , do NOTHING and then leave, there must be some set up for a later storyline but I don't know what.

Yeh I thought Langrishe was Dumbledore, guess not though.

One question - do people think Hearst had Aunt Lou's son murdered?

by **John-Locke** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:43 am

It's possible he had him Murdered in a way that made him look innocent, unless Aunt Lou poisons him I think that whole storyline was a complete waste of time.

by **TonyWilson** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:47 am

Yeh, it seemed like filler, I suppose all of it could be leading into something but I can't see what yet. The Langrishe storyline doesn't seem to be going anywhere either. I mean I love the charater and the actor but the storyline doesn't seem to be doing much, certainly not impacting on the "A" story, it's a nice diversion, but to be honest I don't want any diversions unless there is some real development, like Steve and the afro-american superman General or Jane and Joanie Stubbs.

by **Evil Hobbit** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:28 am

TonyWilson wrote:Yeh, it seemed like filler, I suppose all of it could be leading into something but I can't see what yet. The Langrishe storyline doesn't seem to be going anywhere either. I mean I love the charater and the actor but the storyline doesn't seem to be doing much, certainly not impacting on the "A" story, it's a nice diversion, but to be honest I don't want any diversions unless there is some real development, like Steve and the afro-american superman General or Jane and Joanie Stubbs.

Though that the actual Langrishe storyline is almost standalone next to the A line, there is some impact though. The old friendship between Langrish and Al already made Langrish the go-between EB never was.

by **Vegeta** on Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:20 pm

HOLY SHIT!!!!! :shock:

***SPOILERS***

My God! They murdered one of my favorite characters "Elsworth"! The poor bastard didn't even have a chance. Blood wil be shed and by the bucketloads, especially after parading his body through camp. I'll give Trixy credit, at least she tried, and threw the snatch out there for diversion! :oops:

8)

So what else is left? The Langershire storyline? Unless ot involves Al, :roll:

. E.B. needs to die, just because he's to much of a pussy to wipe away Hearst's spittle!

Blood needs to be shed, and by the gallons (sorry about the redundance, but, it requires repeating) unless Hearst follows through with his musing of: "not against my own"

My big hope is Wu follows through: "WU, BIG MAN"

by **Alientoast** on Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:06 am

When Hearst mentioned the tent to look for, I had that dreaded feeling about what was coming. I'm still surprised by the turn of events, but I got a good laugh out of what Trixie did after the fact. While everyone schemes, she just grabs her pistol and storms off to do what they should have done weeks ago

by **StaffInfection** on Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:38 pm

Kudos to Trixie, and a big R.I.P. to one of my favorite characters. It looks like Wu may save the day. Btw, Wyatt Earp, historically, was only in Deadwood a couple days, so the show's storyline makes sense. I can't wait for next week!

by **Evil Hobbit** on Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:32 pm

OMFG

Once again a episode that tops it all ey! Man was I shocked by the dead of Elsworth. He was sitting there in his tent and then it opens and before you realise it is a gun BENG. My heart pounded, my adrenaline floated and my hands grapped hold of my hair, not letting go. And then all that follows... jesus christ what a show. I love it how all the former 'camp enemies' now all unite in the Gem. How Bullock gets more and more grip on his temper, how the little one touches his moustache in a urge to feel some of the love mr Elsworth will never give her again. Seeing Jane with the kids, seeing Charlie more on his comfort around Al's, being finally accepted for what he is in a group. The flavour of humor Langrish brings to the show, a subtle nuance between the hard and blood pumping tention. The meeting at the hardware guys was brilliant. Absolutely gorgeous. I laughed and cheered at Langrish imitating EB's bowing and smerking. Even EB had his moment of semi-bravery. Lifting Jewell up the stairs while she wants to bring Alma another breakfast. Jewell calling the imbecil to fucking ugly to sneak up on someone from behind. The doc's wrenching talk with Alma. This is one episode for the books. All these grate moments. Bullock's speech being interrupted by a letter. Dragging Elsworth through the town and Trixie's snitchshooting. So much happends in one ep!!! Once again Deadwood proves to be the most original and best written series of all time. Closing with another classic line; wu big man!

by **Pacino86845** on Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:36 pm

Pacino86845 wrote:I was just starting to get worried that Swearengen was too soft this season when he cuts someone's throat and declares himself commander of the cocksucker brigade!

Good ol' Al!

So this was last week, and this week Al threatens to beat his whores. The man is definitely back in form, and there ain't a godamned thing you can do about it!

Unfortunately, there's no way this is all gonna resolve next episode, so here's to two movies...

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:38 am

Man what an episode! Everyone seemed to get a chance to shine with their acting. Even Richardson!

I am sad to see this last regular episode.

Now we have to wait for who knows how long until the 2 movies.

=[

by **Evil Hobbit** on Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:38 pm

Great episode. Funny to see Hearst hint to a Hearst Publishing Empire. The Homestake mine, finaly his. Though there is so much to tell about Deadwood in the show, I just don't see them wrap it all up in 2 films. Though this is a splendid season final, Deadwood deserves so much more. The waiting begins...

by **Pacino86845** on Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:44 am

In each of the latest two episodes, there was one sort of emotional money scene, which really sends chills down your spine.

Last week's episode, it was the Elseworth POV shot in the wagon, and you see Utter and some other people looking directly at the shaky cam, it was really scary actually, and quite different from how they otherwise film the show.

This week's episode, it was Al. Al standing in his office, SCARED, while Hearst examines the body. Al is really an amazing character. Even when he's scared he's putting on a poker face, but at this point we know Al's usual poker faces and that one was totally new, but it was clear what was going on in his mind.

A great season's end, but I'd say this was the weakest season of the three simply because it leaves us waiting for the movies, whereas the first 2 I felt had closed things off a little neater.

by **zacks19** on Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:32 pm

Wow, I can't believe how season 3 ended! And now they say they series is done! HBO says we'll see two two hour movies, but I'll believe it when I see it!

by **StaffInfection** on Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:58 am

I think the writers may jump ahead in time for the final 4 hours to show what eventually happened to the main characters (several of them are based on real people). Btw, I really enjoyed the season 3 finale. I loved the scene at the beginning where Charlie Utter basically told Hearst to go fuck himself, and the tension between Hearst and Swearengen in the coffin scene was amazing. Gerald McRaney and Ian McShane better be nominated for Emmy's next year! Bring on the next 4 hours!

P.S. It's going to be interesting to see McRaney play a "good guy" again on Jericho after his perfomance as George Hearst.

by **Fievel** on Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:57 pm

Cocksuckers.

I can't believe that the last regular episode of this amazing show has now come and gone. I will now wait in dread for 2007 to be the year that HBO dies. First they kicked mee in the groin repeatedly with the end of Six Feet Under last summer, and now Deadwood and Sopranos are going to see their end come next year.
HBO had better come up with some absolute fucking gems, or Showtime is going to leave them behind.

Rest In Peace Ellsworth. Your death was suprisingly more of a hit to the show than I ever could have imagined.
The scene where Charlie hangs out with Swearingen's men was awesome.
Watching Al's knuckles turn white from his death grip on that knife was intense during Hearst's examination of the body.

Are the last two episodes going to show the town's gradual change to a society with order? That would be a little boring, but still a worthwhile watch.

by **Fievel** on Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:02 pm

StaffInfection wrote: P.S. It's going to be interesting to see McRaney play a "good guy" again on Jericho after his perfomance as George Hearst.

McRainey was Major Dad long before he was Hearst. Watching Major Dad destroy Swearingen's left hand was brutal.

by **Evil Hobbit** on Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:47 am

http://www.hbosurveys.com/surveys/dw_eos_0806.htm

Fill it in; perhaps it helps convincing hbo for a season 4.

by **Fievel** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:33 pm

Evil Hobbit wrote:http://www.hbosurveys.com/surveys/dw_eos_0806.htm

Fill it in; perhaps it helps convincing hbo for a season 4.

Done.... although the last questions make me wonder if HBO is going to have their own cell service like ESPN does.

by **Pacino86845** on Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:51 pm

I just filled it out, though I didn't give them my full name or e-mail address... they didn't have a privacy protection agreement.

For the special features question, among my answers was that it would be cool if Ian McShane did a commentary in character as Swearengen for one episode. That would be just peaches, no?

by **Fievel** on Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:43 pm

Pacino86845 wrote:I just filled it out, though I didn't give them my full name or e-mail address... they didn't have a privacy protection agreement.

For the special features question, among my answers was that it would be cool if Ian McShane did a commentary in character as Swearengen for one episode. That would be just peaches, no?

McShane - "Look at Cox in this scene.... cocksucker tries to steal it out from under me... not to be had this time, my old friend. HUZZAH!! (sound of a shot of whiskey being swallowed heard here)"

by **Pacino86845** on Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:33 am

Heheheh, right on the money, Fievel.

by **Evil Hobbit** on Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:34 am

Yeah, Ian Mcshane commentary would rock big time! I putted in I'd like to see an in-depth doc on the writing of the show. From scratch to shooting day.

by **JAGUART** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:55 pm

All clips taken from a single episode? Probably.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Deadwoods-Al-Swearengen-at-his-best--2

by **Evil Hobbit** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:35 pm

yeah, cocksucker...

hmmmm, please return

by **Vegeta** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:37 pm

Well, since this popped back up, does anyone have any idea when the Season3 DVDs come out?

by **Fievel** on Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:17 pm

Seeing this thread pop back up is like someone asking how your Dad is doing a few months after he died.

Brutal.

by **NudeAndAroused** on Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:54 pm

is this show off the air for good?

by **John-Locke** on Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:56 pm

Kinda, there will be two Movie length episodes at some point if memory serves correctly.

by **Cha-Ka Khan** on Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:24 am

Dan's fight with Hearst's man, "The Captain"?

Best. Fight. EVER!

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:24 am

I saw a Milch interview about Deadwood on salon.com that i will link here.

by **Chilli** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:31 am

Watched the first four eps of this show, and I have to say that television rarely gets any better than this. It was refreshing to see a show where emotions weren't signposted above peoples heads, and actors could be subtle instead of ridiculously flashy.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:38 pm

Chilli wrote:Watched the first four eps of this show, and I have to say that television rarely gets any better than this. It was refreshing to see a show where emotions weren't signposted above peoples heads, and actors could be subtle instead of ridiculously flashy.

Why didnt you continue?

by **Chilli** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:39 pm

I plan to, just haven't had the time yet.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:41 pm

Good.

by **Chilli** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:42 pm

Robin W is fucking phenomenal on Deadwood. I think its 1x02 where they have that sick little kid, and she faces off with Al S, and damn if that isn't some of the finest acting you could get on TV.

by **TonyWilson** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:42 pm

John-Locke wrote:Kinda, there will be two Movie length episodes at some point if memory serves correctly.

Hahahaha.

That's bitter, cynical laughter btw.

by **Vegeta** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:52 pm

TonyWilson wrote:
John-Locke wrote:Kinda, there will be two Movie length episodes at some point if memory serves correctly.

Hahahaha.

That's bitter, cynical laughter btw.

Yup, knew that was a lie from the very beginning. That is the thing to do now to rabid fans of excellent TV that ends before it's time. "We'll make a couple of movies". :roll:

Anyone remember that line when Buffy and Angel ended? :cry:

At least we are actually gonna get the Futurama rebirth...

by **Fievel** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:59 pm

I think that one of the Deadwood crossover actors on John From Cincinnati will actually end both series by ending up waking up back in Deadwood after a particularly crazy series of events in modern Imperial Beach and simply utter the word "Cocksucker"..... and the credits roll.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:05 pm

Fievel wrote:I think that one of the Deadwood crossover actors on John From Cincinnati will actually end both series by ending up waking up back in Deadwood after a particularly crazy series of events in modern Imperial Beach and simply utter the word "Cocksucker"..... and the credits roll.

That would be so Chase

by **Fievel** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:18 pm

stereosforgeeks wrote:
Fievel wrote:I think that one of the Deadwood crossover actors on John From Cincinnati will actually end both series by ending up waking up back in Deadwood after a particularly crazy series of events in modern Imperial Beach and simply utter the word "Cocksucker"..... and the credits roll.

That would be so Chase

Nahhh... Chase would stop halfway through the "Cocksucker".
:lol:

That sounds so wrong.

It is almost a mashup of Milch, Chase, & Newhart.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:51 pm

Fievel wrote:
stereosforgeeks wrote:
Fievel wrote:I think that one of the Deadwood crossover actors on John From Cincinnati will actually end both series by ending up waking up back in Deadwood after a particularly crazy series of events in modern Imperial Beach and simply utter the word "Cocksucker"..... and the credits roll.

That would be so Chase

Nahhh... Chase would stop halfway through the "Cocksucker".

That sounds so wrong.

It is almost a mashup of Milch, Chase, & Newhart.

You make a valid point

by **Keepcoolbutcare** on Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:00 pm

so I just finished disc 3 of Season 3, which brings me up to episode 8.

Very pleased with what's transpired so far, as the show righted itself from a bit of a drop off with Season 2...which, to be fair, was to be expected, 'cuz Season 1 is one of my favorite seasons of any television show, like, ever.

Part of the disappointment I had with Season 2 was simply not enough Swearengen for my liking. Laying him up after his epic brawl with Seth forced one of TV's greatest characters (like, ever) to the sidelines, but Milch & Co. more than made up for it this year with any scene between him and the great Brian Cox. Those two together is pure bliss.

Gotta say I'm pleasantly surprised with Major Dad, who's somehow able to infuse the chillingly cold-blooded embodiment of evil, robber-baron capitalistic greed with a spark of humanity. Amazing perf from McRaney.

And holy mother of your dyslexic dog, that fight between Dan and Captain Turner was fucking intense, with BP literally screaming at the tele for Dan to pull through and bury the cocksucker. For me, I can't watch a guy lose an eye without flashing to Dr. Venture in Season 2, so what would ordinarily be a scene of disturbing violence had me on the floor in hysterics.

RIP Deadwood.

HBO...COCKSUCKERS!

by **Cha-Ka Khan** on Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:44 am

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Amazing perf from McRaney.

Yeah... whoever made the decision to cast him deserves a special chair in Heaven. Plus weekends in Hell for the fun stuff.

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:And holy mother of your dyslexic dog, that fight between Dan and Captain Turner was fucking intense, with BP literally screaming at the tele for Dan to pull through and bury the cocksucker. For me, I can't watch a guy lose an eye without flashing to Dr. Venture in Season 2, so what would ordinarily be a scene of disturbing violence had me on the floor in hysterics.

Quite possibly THE single greatest fight in the history of television. It's too bad the eye-popping was spoiled for you. I was out of my mind with revenge-fueled bloodlust!

by **TonyWilson** on Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:50 am

Ah memories. Misty sepia toned memories. Season 3 did bring the noise as it were. Tho I fear you may be left a little unsaitisfied, not with the last episode and vertainly not with the "tell him something pretty" ending. But overall things just seemed to have...well you'll see soon, dude.
But it's the reaction to the technological advances that I utterly adore from this season, the development of the towns design and progress that really elevated this season to, at the time, being my favourite show ever.

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