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Do you ever watch a cartoon of your childhood again and think "Why the heck was I into that?" For example, does anyone hear remember Hammerman past the theme tune?
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Postby doglips on Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:40 am

Yeah, I used to love The New Schmoo Show, in retrospect it's not that good.
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Postby godzillasushi on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:24 pm

That Gummi Bears show was so entertaining back then, but now, somehow I dont think thats the case anymore. Anyone remember that? I remember the opening and them jumping around all the time, wierd.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:30 pm

"Gummi Bears... bouncing here and there and everywhere..."
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Postby darkjedijaina on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:31 pm

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Postby doglips on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:31 pm

mmmmmm, gummi berry juice.

Galaxy high? Dr Snuggles? Not up to much really.
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Postby ThisIsTheGirl on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:42 pm

Visionaries and Dungeons & Dragons both seem kinda shite these days....
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:43 pm

For me that would be He-Man and the Masters of the Universe....which I don't remember as anythng great but it's definitely worse than I remember.
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Postby Al Shut on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:44 pm

godzillasushi wrote:That Gummi Bears show was so entertaining back then, but now, somehow I dont think thats the case anymore. Anyone remember that? I remember the opening and them jumping around all the time, wierd.



Even in retrospect the Gummi Bears are not that bad, at least not until the bear with the bird showed up.

The Turtles however amke we wonder what drugs my parents put in my cereals that I liked that show.
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:45 pm

Star Trek seemed ultra cool. It looks like crap today, but at least it had the voice talent and a few good scripts.
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:45 pm

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Postby DennisMM on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:45 pm

At the sign of -- Hercules!
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:49 pm

I loved the X-Men animated series from the '90s, but looking back at it now, it was sooooo cheaply made.
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Postby Flumm on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:55 pm

Looking back, so many of my televisual childhood memories seem to have been conducted at several frames per second crappier than I remember them.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:57 pm

I tend to purposely try not to re-visit my favorite old skool cartoons for this very reason. Seeing how crappy they are by adult standards would probably rape my childhood.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:16 pm

ThisIsTheGirl wrote:Dungeons & Dragons



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Please tell me that is the world's least likely typing error..... :shock:
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:18 pm

Chairman Kaga wrote:For me that would be He-Man and the Masters of the Universe....which I don't remember as anythng great but it's definitely worse than I remember.


I must admit....this is what I was going to say.

And I know I will regret it one day....but I still forgive the X-Men animated series from the nineties...and the Spidey one too.

Without the former, there'd be no "I'm the Juggernaut Bitch" on YouTube, for starters....
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:24 pm

How about 'the racoons', my friend once slept with a holiday rep who looked liked Cyril Sneer...
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:35 pm

I used to also love Dog Tanian and the Muskerhounds. I saw this again recently and it must have been really annoying for any parents in the vacinity of the television...

In the same guise was '80 days around the world' with probably the worst theme tune ever and also that mouse, that fucking mouse. And every time he appeared on the screen there was one of those whistles played, the sort of noise you would expect to hear if someone came down a slide in 'Pidgeon street'. I don't know what they're called though...
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:42 pm

thebostonlocksmith wrote:I used to also love Dog Tanian and the Muskerhounds. I saw this again recently and it must have been really annoying for any parents in the vacinity of the television...


I hated that show. There...I said it. The lip synch disturbed me. And not in a "G-Force TRansmute" kind of way....but in a "He seems to be talking normally but his mouth is forming an alarmed "O" yet again" kind of way.

And there's something about a veil-wearing felines that just shouldn't make young boys feel that way....
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:45 pm

I didn't mind it. It was one of those

"we know the kids are bored lets put any old shit on, as long as it's got talking dogs...." - Gregg Dyke.

I did love He-man, i saw that recently on DVD and bought the first series (£3!) it wasn't worth the money... It was dreadful... all of the cartoons which i hold close to my heart i have decided to steer clear of from now on.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:00 pm

thebostonlocksmith wrote:I didn't mind it. It was one of those

"we know the kids are bored lets put any old shit on, as long as it's got talking dogs...." - Gregg Dyke.

I did love He-man, i saw that recently on DVD and bought the first series (£3!) it wasn't worth the money... It was dreadful... all of the cartoons which i hold close to my heart i have decided to steer clear of from now on.


I could stand to watch it again...though I'd have to fast forward through the awful Orco moments.

But it isn't what I remember it as being...and I was embarrassingly old at the time too....but I was hooked on that show back in the day. I was always happy when Ram-Man put in an appearance too (did he have to earth himself free from static too, do you think?)

Maybe Linda Gray doing Teela's voice and then appearing on my TV as an alcoholic slut only hours later helped......
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Postby buster00 on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:24 pm

God, this list could go on and on...

"Pac-Man"

"Super Friends"

Those "Scooby-Doo" episodes that had the guest stars ("Hey, it's Don Knotts!")

"Rubik the Amazing Cube"
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Postby Flumm on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:34 pm

Considering the breadth of our collectively mauled childhood toon-mares, would it be worth opening it up maybe to those that hold up better than we expect?

Mmm, I say that though, and my mind immediately jumps back again another few decades to Bugs n' co...

Childhood nostalgia to the side for a sec' or so, is there anything worth salvaging among the wreckages of serialised cartoons?
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:40 pm

Did anyone else actually see Star Trek? You're all too young, aren't you (except for the Vicar, who hasn't weighed in here)? Another that comes to mind is Planet of the Apes. It had a completely different premise from both the movies and the one-seaon live-action TV show. For a Saturday cartoon it was dark.
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:43 pm

MasterWhedon wrote:I loved the X-Men animated series from the '90s, but looking back at it now, it was sooooo cheaply made.


I'll have to second that.

And He-Man and She-Ra both...why?!

I haven't managed to see Ninja Turtles since I hit adulthood...I wonder if it holds up?
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:58 pm

Doc Holliday wrote:
" I was always happy when Ram-Man put in an appearance too (did he have to earth himself free from static too, do you think?)

Maybe Linda Gray doing Teela's voice and then appearing on my TV as an alcoholic slut only hours later helped......



Ram man was one of my favourites too, despite the homosexual overtones of Ram man and Fisto 'Teaming up'
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Postby godzillasushi on Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:59 pm

In many of these shows, like turtles, they look bad now but the dialogue and voices are still pretty funny and entertaining.
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:02 pm

Good point there. My favourite cartoon voice of all time? Krang...
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Postby unikrunk on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:03 pm

DennisMM wrote:Did anyone else actually see Star Trek? You're all too young, aren't you (except for the Vicar, who hasn't weighed in here)? Another that comes to mind is Planet of the Apes. It had a completely different premise from both the movies and the one-seaon live-action TV show. For a Saturday cartoon it was dark.


I just picked up Planet of the Apes, entire animated series; it is fantastic.

Star Trek TAS was great! All the original cast doing voice acting? It was perfect; release the DVD, suits!

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Postby DennisMM on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:14 pm

You're praising POTA for being crap, though! To me that's not great, just the sort of thing we're discussing here.

Star Trek comes off as a kid's show. Sometimes it's a very sophisticated kid's show, but still aimed at a younger audience than TOS. There are exceptions. Larry Niven's "Slaver Weapon" is wonderful and "Yesteryear" (Spock using the Guardian of Forever to visit his childhood) stands up well. The red, goat-legged alien crewman was a nice idea.
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:24 pm

What about Pin Wheel? Anybody remember watching that? Or that educational show called The Letter People?

There was also 3,2,1 Contact and a few others...

And no, I did not see Star Trek when it aired the first time (not born yet) but I sure watched it a lot during the 80s when it was on TV.
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:28 pm

Any of the Brit zoners remember wordy? and the little films thay use to play like Jordie racers and the dark tower (i think that's what it was called).

I used to like, from an educational standpoint
Lets pretend
and Bric-a brac (and her little car was a bit like flumms?)
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:29 pm

thebostonlocksmith wrote:Any of the Brit zoners remember wordy? and the little films thay use to play like Jordie racers and the dark tower (i think that's what it was called).

I used to like, from an educational standpoint
Lets pretend
and Bric-a brac (and her little car was a bit like flumms?)


I was all about Choc-a-Bloc I have to say....it was all about gizmos and gadgets, even back then.

This is choc-a-bloke, checking out....
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:31 pm

It was choc- a - block!!!!!!! not Brick a brac... what a tool i am...

Yep used to fucking love that
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:34 pm

Bric-a-Brac was pretty cool too though...anything that kept Brian Cant off the streets was a worthy venture IMO.
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:39 pm

and christopher lillicrap, he must have shown up with acoustic guitar at some stage?

He was always on Rainbow for some reason, i think it was after Rod, Jane and Freddie became too big for the show.. they did a great gangsta rap once, which i must admit looked a little false with there pastel shaded romper suits on... Nowadays of course there a bit less hip hop and a bit more hip-op
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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:59 pm

thebostonlocksmith wrote:and christopher lillicrap, he must have shown up with acoustic guitar at some stage?

He was always on Rainbow for some reason, i think it was after Rod, Jane and Freddie became too big for the show.. they did a great gangsta rap once, which i must admit looked a little false with there pastel shaded romper suits on... Nowadays of course there a bit less hip hop and a bit more hip-op


Oh man...Lillicrap...how can we forget! What was that show he did where he would sit on some tree stump in some enchanted wood somewhere? That was my favourite one.

That and visiting Button Moon with Mr Spoon
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:01 pm

Was it called 'bare crap in the woods - unplugged' it was a bit of a dismantaling of his rock star persona...
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Postby TonyWilson on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:03 pm

Button Moon was fucking GOLD, Holiday, just you rememmber that.


Teddy Ruxspin was unmitigated shite though.

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Postby Doc Holliday on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:04 pm

thebostonlocksmith wrote:Was it called 'bare crap in the woods - unplugged' it was a bit of a dismantaling of his rock star persona...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:09 pm

Button Moon was fantastic, and actually holds the record for being the first british childrens programme to be made for under fifty pence...

I have a friend called 'Steve Moon' and we always say (actually it's just me) Hello Mr.Moon, Button Spoon.... and no, you don't have to tell me how funny i am...
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Postby doglips on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:10 pm

ThisIsTheGirl wrote:Visionaries


Fuck, good memory. Man, I bet those toys are scarce nowadays.
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Postby havocSchultz on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:10 pm

I used to enjoy a cartoon - I think it was called The All-Stars or something like that...it featured animated forms of Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, and Bo Jackson fighting crime together in the off-season or something...

And what the fuck is Bo Jackson doing in that group?
The only reason they had him was so they could cover 2 professional sports with him - thus saving them price of an extra bic pen for the whole animation thing...

And don't they all have different off seasons...?

I'm sure it's not nearly as craptacular now as it was then...

Besides - I kept trying to write the producers so they could add some sort of bowling champ...get the common man involved...

But that might be too close to the bowler chick in mystery men - or John Goodman's character in Big Lebowski...

Who else here thinks they should make a Big Lebowski cartoon...?

The adventures of Walter and The Jesus...
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:37 pm

havocSchultz wrote:I used to enjoy a cartoon - I think it was called The All-Stars or something like that...it featured animated forms of Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan, and Bo Jackson fighting crime together in the off-season or something...


:o

Like, OMG! I used to watch that show all the time too!

havocSchultz wrote:And what the fuck is Bo Jackson doing in that group? The only reason they had him was so they could cover 2 professional sports with him - thus saving them price of an extra bic pen for the whole animation thing...


It's so true! Although Bo was pretty sweet back in the day. I hear tell he broke a bat just by check-swinging.
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Postby austenandrews on Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:59 pm

Some of the later Warner Brothers stuff is disappointing to revisit. The "golden age" stuff still holds up, of course, but some latter-day Chuck Jones work is grim.

Doc Holliday wrote:Without the former, there'd be no "I'm the Juggernaut Bitch" on YouTube, for starters....

That came from the cartoon..?
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Postby cap on Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:10 pm

austenandrews wrote:Some of the later Warner Brothers stuff is disappointing to revisit. The "golden age" stuff still holds up, of course, but some latter-day Chuck Jones work is grim.

Doc Holliday wrote:Without the former, there'd be no "I'm the Juggernaut Bitch" on YouTube, for starters....

That came from the cartoon..?


Agreed, seconded, thirded....

If I see the "redrawn" or updated version, I just change the channel.

The updating of Mighty Mouse was pretty weak as well. The original was hokey, which is pallettable. The remake was intenitonally hokey which doesn't fly......
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Postby thebostonlocksmith on Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:02 pm

I hope someone can remember 'Jossie's giants' that was poor even then, but not a cartoon...

Ditto on the gummy bears as above,

what was the name of the multi-racial band of brothers that used to have rings that they would hold in the air and say

Earth or Wind?

I think it was captain planet (i'm pretty sure now...)

Rude dog and the dweebs was also quite toid...
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Postby Chairman Kaga on Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:17 pm

Lady Sheridan wrote:
MasterWhedon wrote:I loved the X-Men animated series from the '90s, but looking back at it now, it was sooooo cheaply made.


I'll have to second that.

And He-Man and She-Ra both...why?!

I haven't managed to see Ninja Turtles since I hit adulthood...I wonder if it holds up?

The weird thing about all of this is that there are newer better versions of both He-Man and TMNT produced within the last 5 years. Perhaps these things will just be continually remade as our generation ages to fit our ever changing tastes.
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