Official X-Men: The Last Stand Review Thread [SPOILERS!]

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With 10 being the best and 1 being the worst, how would you rate X-Men: The Last Stand?

10
4
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9
4
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8
20
17%
7
27
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6
18
16%
5
12
10%
4
9
8%
3
7
6%
2
3
3%
1
5
4%
I will not be seeing this/I am waiting for DVD
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Postby FCEEVIPER on Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:11 am

I give X3 a weak 3.

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Postby Lady Sheridan on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:33 am

So I bought X3 today, tempted by all those deleted scenes and alternate endings. Surely, I thought, they would add in Angel's action scenes? More Cyclops? Motivation for Dark Phoenix to join Magneto? Wolverine's magical pants finally come off in the skin-tearing finale?

It is the biggest rip off ever and clear proof that Ratner is a big moron. All the deleted scenes are nothing more than really stupid alternate takes--the Juggy version screams to mind. The alternate endings are nonsensical scenes, such as Wolverine returning to Canada and ordering a beer.

I'm so glad I didn't spend the money on the deluxe Wal-Mart collector edition. Perhaps their double-dip collector edition due later on will contain all the cool missing stuff, but I doubt it. I think it will just be discs of Ratner talking about how awesome he is. He's got enough of my money already with X3, so I'm glad I just went with the el-cheapo version.
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:27 am

Ratner didn't write it, he directed it in six months. Considering the juggernaut that was X3 was already out of control by the time I got on board, is it fair to call him a moron for things out of his hands? ;)
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:01 am

I personally thought X-Men 3 was a solid, fun blockbuster. That it didn't have the character depth of Singer's work shows how far comic book movies have come since the days of Batman And Robin.
I don't get this hatred of Brett Ratner. Granted, the man has never made Citizen Kane, but neither is he McG either. He's brought in and does a decent job.
The fact is no comic book film could ever be perfect- there were plenty of bitchings about the first X-Men movie (though people are right about the rushed ending) and how many people thought Alan Cumming would be such a good Nightcrawler (my fave!)?
My only gripe with X-Men 3 is it needed to be a bit longer, esp. the scenes with Beast (good to add political intrigue to the mix)
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Postby Al Shut on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:06 am

Lady Sheridan wrote: The alternate endings are nonsensical scenes, such as Wolverine returning to Canada and ordering a beer.


Did he cheet on anyone?
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:34 am

Al_Shut wrote:
Lady Sheridan wrote: The alternate endings are nonsensical scenes, such as Wolverine returning to Canada and ordering a beer.


Did he cheet on anyone?


Yeah. Sabretooth loves him really.
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X3 Movie/DVD Review

Postby kpowers70 on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:44 am

X-Men 3 is a movie that I hold close to my heart. When I interned at Marvel Studios, I spent a great deal of time working on pre-production for the film. It was my first Hollywood movie I actually had something to do with, so to say that I feel attached to the film is an understatement. While Avi Arad and Kevin Feige went after a new director, Jason Miller, myself and two other interns spend hours in comic geek heaven compiling artist renderings, storylines, character profiles, uses of powers, tossing around story ideas about everything and anything X-Men. However, with the return of my all-time favorite character Hal Jordan and the announcement of a Superman movie, my attention shifted drastically from Marvel to DC.
That aside X3: The Last Stand did a fantastic job at the box office amidst doubts over Brett Rattner’s ability to follow Bryan Singer and rumblings that the film could not live up to the previous two. Looking back at the comic book franchise, there haven’t been any #3’s that have been as good as or better than the first 2. Spider-Man 3 may be the first to break this “curse,â€
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:55 am

AtomicHyperbole wrote:Ratner didn't write it, he directed it in six months. Considering the juggernaut that was X3 was already out of control by the time I got on board, is it fair to call him a moron for things out of his hands? ;)


If you see the endless alternate takes, you'll agree with me.

I'll forgive him for the storyline (and I didn't hate X3, not really) but those "deleted scenes" are just ridiculous.
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:12 pm

I'll hold fast and see if it's true... :)
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:33 pm

SPOILER ALERT!





Kp- "Doesn't pose a threat?" She kills off Xavier, what more of a threat do you need? While not a perfectly realised character, you couldn't do the full on space saga stuff.

This is why Fantastic 4 2 (How does that work?) doesn't fill me with glee either. The age of the Marvel crossover films has begun.
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Postby austenandrews on Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:39 pm

MonsieurReynard wrote:This is why Fantastic 4 2 (How does that work?) doesn't fill me with glee either. The age of the Marvel crossover films has begun.

There is a relatively plausible connection between the cosmic energy that created the FF and the cosmic energy of SS & Galactus.

Then again FF is a much fluffier franchise. Adding another premise (like aliens) is not so bad.
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:46 pm

austenandrews wrote:
MonsieurReynard wrote:This is why Fantastic 4 2 (How does that work?) doesn't fill me with glee either. The age of the Marvel crossover films has begun.

There is a relatively plausible connection between the cosmic energy that created the FF and the cosmic energy of SS & Galactus.

Then again FF is a much fluffier franchise. Adding another premise (like aliens) is not so bad.


Meh- it starts off "fluffier", then the rubber nipples come back.

Let's see- a big man in a purple helmet who eats planets. It had better be Brian Blessed or I'm taking my ball home.
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Postby kpowers70 on Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:04 pm

I think Xavier lets himself go and you know he's not dead, especially following the credits. I mentioned that I know they couldn't do the space saga... didnt I?
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:46 pm

kpowers70 wrote:I think Xavier lets himself go and you know he's not dead, especially following the credits. I mentioned that I know they couldn't do the space saga... didnt I?


You did, and you're probably also aware (being on the project) that Matthew Vaughan was slated to direct and dropped out. It's a delay which is felt on screen. Then again, if you see the first X-Men again you'll probably similar rips at the seams too.

The two script writers themselves though have been quoted as wanted to do the whole Phoenix thing, so it was not a go at you.
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Postby RogueScribner on Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:49 pm

I don't hate Ratner. Nor do I blame him for the less than stellar quality of X3. I honestly believe he did the best he could in the time he had and the fact the movie isn't a steaming pile of shit (despite all of Fox's best efforts) is a testament to the talent Ratner has.

But the script did have problems, the editing was iffy on occasion, and the film was more concerned with spectacle than character. I would have loved to have seen Singer's X3 done properly. Hell, I'd love to have seen Ratner's X3 with another 6 months to tweak the script and do post.
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Postby MonsieurReynard on Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:25 am

RogueScribner wrote:I don't hate Ratner. Nor do I blame him for the less than stellar quality of X3. I honestly believe he did the best he could in the time he had and the fact the movie isn't a steaming pile of shit (despite all of Fox's best efforts) is a testament to the talent Ratner has.

But the script did have problems, the editing was iffy on occasion, and the film was more concerned with spectacle than character. I would have loved to have seen Singer's X3 done properly. Hell, I'd love to have seen Ratner's X3 with another 6 months to tweak the script and do post.


That is the problem. Mind you, it's not as bad as The Mummy Returns, where they clearly got their kid to draw The Rock and put it on top of the scorpion they couldn't be arsed to finish.
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Postby Doc Holliday on Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:42 pm

You know what - I may be the last person on earth to get this, I feel such a douche. I was watching X2 last night on TV and noticed that during the bit when Cyclops is being controlled and blasts Jean Grey, the energy/power of the blast activates the Phoenix.

Shortly afterwards, when Cyclops, all good again, is helping her to her feet - she looks up and says "something is wrong".

Now, previously I had always thought she had detected the dam breaking, or perhaps even Magneto's shenanigans. But what also works is if THAT is the first time she becomes aware of the Phoenix entity - she is actually talking about herself.

And so finally I understand why she had to stand outside the jet - she was killing herself before The Phoenix took over control completely.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:56 pm

Can someone help me on this one? I got the X Men boxed set which includes the X3 version that says on the BOX '22 DELETED SCENES'. Yet I count about 11 only on Disk 1. Plus instead of 3 alternate endings, I only can find 2 on the Menu also. Are they anywhere secret to be found? - And Fuck the Easter Egg shite, I hate having to search through and through on a DVD to find this hidden shit.

Anyone out there who can help?
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Postby justcheckin on Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:23 pm

Kirk,

Try some of these...

http://www.eeggs.com/tree/10895.html
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:58 pm

Hmm, well that page is all very well and good, but what I need is to figure out a fucking way that Fox can get that Last Stand Disc 1 with the 21/22/whatever deleted scenes to me. I just turned my back on you Zoners who rejected my plea for help and went over to Superherohype who basically told me that there was an actual MISTAKE by Fox, who packaged the 11 Deleted Scene Disk into the DVD boxes that said '22 Deleted Scenes'.

For all other people who have made this mistake or those who weren't aware of it until now, go and do like a dog cocking it's leg up at it's previous owner and running off with a new one, and sod the Zone off and instead, go over to http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252063&page=1 and check it out.

I just did, and now, Man am I Mad!!!!!!!!

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Postby justcheckin on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:17 pm

It'll be alright Bug Lover, you'll get through it. Good Luck!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:25 pm

I have Fox's distribution number. They'll be hearing from my lawyer first thing tomorrow morning.

Right now, I gotta deal with what I DID see on the deleted scene list so far, and try to get over my shock and heartbreak of seeing SPOILERS... Ellen Page actually give Iceman a peck on the lips in the ice skating scene.

HOW!?!??! WHY?!?!?! HOW!??!?! WHHHHHYYYYEEEEEEEEE?!!?!??!!?!?!?
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Postby justcheckin on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:31 pm

Good God man get ahold of yourself...
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Actually, you might want to change that last part too...

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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:36 pm

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Everytime I try to walk out of the door and go to bed, whhhhhhyyyyy do you keep trying to hurt me like this?!
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Postby justcheckin on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:41 pm

I doubt very seriously that I am hurting you... :)
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Postby Peven on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:48 pm

Kirk is a masochist. he loves this, jc
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Postby justcheckin on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:49 pm

I know he does... :) He loves bugs too... a little too much if you know what I mean. *winks*
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Postby Peven on Tue Dec 26, 2006 11:53 pm

too bad he thinks the "great circle of life" entails a group of men sitting around in a room wacking off while facing each other.
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:00 am

MwHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:40 am

Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.
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Postby Peven on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:43 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with ED, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


prilosec? viagra?
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:44 am

ED?
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Postby Peven on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:46 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:ED?


ED= erectile dystfunction
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:49 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


Thought you were going to bed? Staying up late with the bugs are you?
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Postby Peven on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:54 am

justcheckin wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


Thought you were going to bed? Staying up late with the bugs are you?


bed bugs were biting.









yeah bed bugs.














thats what Kirk calls them.















anyone else would just admit they had crabs and go to the doctor.
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Re: X3 Movie/DVD Review

Postby Shane on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:57 am

kpowers70 wrote:
However, following Batman Begins and Superman Returns and the slew of Marvel movies over the past six years, the difference between the DC and Marvel movies is clear, DC seems to be going for the emotionally tormented, more character driven film while Marvel is happily banking on the classic blockbuster.



No the difference is that Marvel is making them and DC is barely putting anything out. That and Marvel is making a hell of alot more money on their movies.
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:59 am

Peven wrote:
justcheckin wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


Thought you were going to bed? Staying up late with the bugs are you?


bed bugs were biting.


yeah bed bugs.


thats what Kirk calls them.


anyone else would just admit they had crabs and go to the doctor.


Actually, Kirk likes it when the bugs bite. It is a fetish.
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:00 am

justcheckin wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


Thought you were going to bed? Staying up late with the bugs are you?


Man you just got up to 400 posts because of me, and all I get are mocks when I should be getting thanks. All I want is a request for some help with my current issue here.

By the looks of things with you, Peven, at least I don't have Leeches instead of crabs on that body part.

Now if anyone can help regarding X3 - I NEED HELP, DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:01 am

Shane, can you help me?
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:02 am

Hmmm... wittle baby wants JC to come over and fix the wittle problem?

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Postby Shane on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:04 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Shane, can you help me?



With what your STD's?
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:05 am

JC, do you know how easily I could BAN you for talking to me this way?
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Postby Shane on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:05 am

I'm lost.
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Postby Shane on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:06 am

do you feel offended?
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I've edited it. Don't worry.
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Postby Peven on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:07 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:
justcheckin wrote:
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Unless you can help with my problem with X3, I'd advise you all to take this more seriously.


Thought you were going to bed? Staying up late with the bugs are you?


Man you just got up to 400 posts because of me, and all I get are mocks when I should be getting thanks. All I want is a request for some help with my current issue here.

By the looks of things with you, Peven, at least I don't have Leeches instead of crabs on that body part.

Now if anyone can help regarding X3 - I NEED HELP, DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


see, i need the leeches. too much blood gets diverted down there and without the leeches to help relieve the pressure my dick would explode.

and, to make this a legit post for this thread, i think you should be content with the X3 disc you have considering there are bugs dying all over the world without ever getting to see any of the X-Men movies at all.
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Postby Shane on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:07 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I have Fox's distribution number. They'll be hearing from my lawyer first thing tomorrow morning.

Right now, I gotta deal with what I DID see on the deleted scene list so far, and try to get over my shock and heartbreak of seeing SPOILERS... Ellen Page actually give Iceman a peck on the lips in the ice skating scene.

HOW!?!??! WHY?!?!?! HOW!??!?! WHHHHHYYYYEEEEEEEEE?!!?!??!!?!?!?


oh with this?

Well you can always put in hard candy and watch her cut off testicles.
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:08 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:JC, do you know how easily I could BAN you for talking to me this way?


Mwhahahahahahahahaha!!!! :twisted: Bug Lover
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Postby Cpt Kirks 2pay on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:09 am

The 3 of you just made my list of things to do tomorrow.
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Postby justcheckin on Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:12 am

Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:The 3 of you just made my list of things to do tomorrow.


Wow, can't believe that I rank that high enough to make your list. That was my goal all along!!!

Love ya, Bug Lover :twisted:
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