havocSchultz wrote:
I'll go with 7...because it seems to have alot of replay factor for me...and Kane Hodder is a rocking Voorhees...
ThisIsTheGirl wrote:I love the first one too Doc - in fact, i love the first three of these movies, and this is almost too tough to call, but I'm gonna go with 3, because for me that's the one that really cements my idea of who and what Jason is....
wonkabar wrote:havocSchultz wrote:
I'll go with 7...because it seems to have alot of replay factor for me...and Kane Hodder is a rocking Voorhees...
7 does replay quite well.
Hodder....fuck, such malice. I love how he looks over his shoulder after finishing somebody off....like, "who's fuckn' next!!"
Doc Holliday wrote:I'm never going to find out am I?
Someone pull Havoc out of Kirk and get him to a computer please...
Doc, let's see if we can figure this out for you...
4 had The Feldman - where he goes a little nuts and kills Jason...then in the hospital at the end - the last shot - he gives a creepy look to the camera - with his self-shaved head - and they make you think he could be in the next one...
The 5th one is the one where Voorhees wasn't actually in it - it was a copycat killer - and it had Feldman's character from the previous one all grown up - a little crazy - and battling it out...
Then the 6th one - for some reason - also has Feldman's character all grown up - but played by a different actor - and they totally disregard everything that happened in the 5th one...
It's between those couple (if it is Friday you're talking about) that you're probably thinking about...
Doc Holliday wrote:Aha! nice work Havoc...I think its IV then.
Better-late-than-never-SPOILER WARNING
In the hospital at the end...it seems like its a happy ending, with the girl. Then she leaves and he hears teh cha-cha-chas (I think) and opens a drawer to find the hockey mask.
I think he may even kill someone with either the machete or a scalpel...then the last shot is where he's gone through the window and escaped to take up the mantle of Jason???
Its been a few years so I have probably confused at least some of that detail with at least one other film...but I remember the hospital epilogue coming hot-on-the-heels of a climactic fight in a barn, where the 'real' Jason had been killed.
How did I not remember it was Feldman?Thats just fucking poor.
Doc Holliday wrote:How did I not remember it was Feldman?Thats just fucking poor.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Maybe 'cos he was so unforgettable that he left you with about the same impact and memorability as that chav baseball capped mute twat who just stands there gormless on those adverts where a guy is advertising his mobile phone to be stolen by him. You know the one I mean? "It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!"
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Probably never got round to seeing that UK Weather by Powergen clip that features Gandalf the Dog, huffing in a Gandalf voice, that I was telling you about.
havocSchultz wrote:That's number 5 -
It's soon after they've discovered and killed the Voorhees copy-cat -
Then Feldman's grown up character is still in a hospital/mental hospital - and he goes nuts and kills somebody and I believe escapes through the window...
Then - like I mentioned above - in #6 - they have the Tommy Jarvis character again (with a different actor) with no reference to anything that happened in #5...
Doc Holliday wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Probably never got round to seeing that UK Weather by Powergen clip that features Gandalf the Dog, huffing in a Gandalf voice, that I was telling you about.
I DID watch that advert and LMAO when I saw it. It got the voice perfect![]()
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Doc Holliday wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Maybe 'cos he was so unforgettable that he left you with about the same impact and memorability as that chav baseball capped mute twat who just stands there gormless on those adverts where a guy is advertising his mobile phone to be stolen by him. You know the one I mean? "It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!"
I HATE that advert. Have that Chav's voice resounding in my head for ages after its been on![]()
Doc Holliday wrote:havocSchultz wrote:That's number 5 -
It's soon after they've discovered and killed the Voorhees copy-cat -
Then Feldman's grown up character is still in a hospital/mental hospital - and he goes nuts and kills somebody and I believe escapes through the window...
Then - like I mentioned above - in #6 - they have the Tommy Jarvis character again (with a different actor) with no reference to anything that happened in #5...
V it is then. And now the mystery has been solved, I re-read your earlier posts and see that all this hard work has gone towards simply highlighting what little I fucking know, and that I've singled out for praise what a lot of people consider to be one of the weaker ones![]()
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In my defense I haven't seen III, IV, VI out of the earlier ones....I did like the ending to V though (oh, the shame).
Now I've read up on the plots I can see how V could wrankle with the fans of the series though
I was trying to do something a little different with the franchise...I was trying to inject a bit of humor in it - which - I don't think was ever done before
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Oh really? Theeeeennnn....... you wouldn't want me to do this then would yoooouuuu.................?
"It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!""It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!""It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!""It'll be all lit up like a Christmas Tree!" etc ad nauseam
havocSchultz wrote:I was trying to do something a little different with the franchise...I was trying to inject a bit of humor in it - which - I don't think was ever done before
By the time you hear that said during number 8 (Jason Takes Manhattan) it's pretty fucking hilarious - cause there was some humor (albeit moreso in the later films) injected into each movie...
I just love it how all these guys thought they were doing something different and original...
havocSchultz wrote:I'll go with 7...because it seems to have alot of replay factor for me...and Kane Hodder is a rocking Voorhees...
3 is the worst part, easy, hockey mask or no. any movie with such horrendous, and gratuitous 3-D shots loses many cool points.
allamericanrejects34 (1 day ago)
Alien would so die if he fought jason, and jason is immortal u retard, to he wouldnt die
CrimsonX (14 hours ago)
Stfu you cock mounger if Alien died... The rest would come for him.
rpgjustagrunt (4 days ago)
We all know Alien would easily beat Jason. There's the acid blood that was never shown, and that hockey mask isn't invincible; facehuggers can penetrate almost any kind of mask.
jjalmood (4 days ago)
wawo, you do know some sceintific facts about this serious topic... i bet you're a rocket sceintist or something doing research on this vital branch of sceince? good luck with your research, and please, DO keep us updated with such valuable facts... thanx again...
Moriarty wrote:When Paramount announced yesterday that they would be releasing "Friday The 13th" on March 13, 2015, it took most people by surprise.
There have been a number of rumors swirling about what approach they're taking, and while they now have a release date, they're a long way from having a script or even a director. HitFix can confirm that this is indeed the found footage film that has been mentioned, and that it is once again going to reboot the series from the start, which is a very confusing approach considering the 2009 film was also a remake of sorts.
The thing I liked most about Marcus Nispel's "Friday The 13th" was the way screenwriters Mark Swift and Damian Shannon managed to condense the first three films of the franchise into one movie. We got the death of Jason's mother in the opening scenes of the movie, we got a long stretch with deformed hillbilly baghead Jason, and we eventually got the hockey-mask wearing icon version. The film was the first time anyone actually tried to explain the way Jason would get around Camp Crystal Lake so quickly as well as the reason he seems to always know where everyone is. It seemed like a really interesting way to restart things without throwing out the entire franchise.
One of the reasons I hate the remake and reboot culture right now is because that tends to be the answer to everything. Warner Bros. may have made the last film, but that doesn't really justify Paramount's decision to start over one film later. And, yes, they are definitely starting over. This is not a sequel to the 2009 film, and it's not just "another" film in the series. The things I'm hearing make it sound like they want it to stand alone again.
Even worse, the more I hear about this version, the less it sounds like a "Friday The 13th" movie and more like a movie that happens to be called "Friday The 13th." I liked that they used Derek Mears as Jason in the Nispel film. I know fans have an attachment to Kane Hodder, but I thought Mears gave Jason some great character details that made him interesting to watch again. Are they going to pony up for him again, or are they going to dump him as well? I know it's easy to think that it doesn't matter who is in the mask, but it does, and there are certain things that fans expect. If you don't do those, then why bother with the title at all?
I'll keep digging on this. I'm curious to see what happens once a first draft comes in from the writers they have on the project. Let's see how long Paramount holds to that date. I am always baffled by the urge to claim a date that's over a year away when they haven't even started writing yet. That seems so backwards to me, such a terrible way to get a good film made.
Prove me wrong, Paramount. Please?
"Friday The 13th" is set for Friday, March 13th, 2015.
Andy Crump wrote:Every slasher villain has an object, an event, a time or a place they're associated with. Freddy Krueger has nightmares. Michael Myers has All Hallows' Eve. Leatherface has a rural Southern abattoir. Jason Voorhees has summer camp, but he also has a number, 13, and a day, Friday, to his name; you can steer clear of supervised children's leisure programs settled on a lakeside in the middle of nowhere, but you can't avoid the calendar, and if you can't avoid the calendar, then you can't avoid Jason.
Picture it: You come home exhausted from a late-night gym session, and all you want is to hop in the shower, freshen up, catch up on your favorite TV shows and settle into bed. So you shut the bathroom door, crank up the hot water and start belting out songs from your running mix, still stuck in your head even though the treadmill is but a distant memory in your mind. But you hear something, a "thump" perhaps, or an errant creaking floorboard; you hear the squeak of an errant door hinge and you pull back the shower curtain, assuming that your significant other is the source of all the creepy noises echoing through your house. You're greeted by a raggedy man in a hockey mask whose driving goal in life is to show you how sharp his machete is. You didn't check the date. Most a pity.
The slasher isn't a bygone horror niche in 2017, but it's less ubiquitous today than it was even a decade ago, and also less effective as a tradition of horror. Maybe Scream took all of the fun out of slashing, but this isn't quite true; MTV's reboot of the Scream franchise got off to a limp in its first season and improved in its second, while American Horror Story and Scream Queens, both products of Ryan Murphy, sustain classic slasher tropes in exasperatingly self-aware fashion. Meanwhile, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre saga has added two new entries to its tangled canon in the last four years (including the upcoming Leatherface), there's a new Child's Play movie available to stream on Netflix, Hollywood is still churning out Hatchet films, and David Gordon Green is inexplicably directing a follow-up to John Carpenter's Halloween, opening in 2018. (And that's to say nothing of Christopher B. Landon's Happy Death Day, out Friday.)
So the slasher isn't dead, and horny, rule-breaking teenagers aren't safe from sudden and bloody death at the hands of a masked psycho. But just as Freddy loses his power the more that people forget him, so too has the slasher category lost much of its cultural cachet as horror has evolved, adapted and shed its old skin to take on entirely new forms. Horror just doesn't need killers like the '80s icons of old anymore.
That doesn't make them any less iconic, though, and among them, Jason's iconography remains strongest. In part, that's credit to simplicity in design; Jason is in many ways the perfect slasher, a lumbering, relentless, omnipresent killing machine, silently stalking the woods where we spent our summers growing up. He is glacial, but inevitable, death incarnate. He hides his face behind a mask, much like Michael Myers, except Jason's chosen disguise blunts any recognizable traces of humanity. Put more straightforwardly, Jason looks "cool" in the primal, terrifying ways that only a slasher can, a hulking, expressionless, raggedy monster with an aesthetic that's instantly memorable, though of course memorability is subjective. (Freddy's look is memorable, too, what with the claws and the Cosby sweater and the worn-down fedora.)
Slashers are more than the sum of their style, though, and that's where Jason has an edge over his '80s peers: He has no constraints. Freddy can only get you in your dreams. Michael only does his thing at the end of October. But you can never let your guard down with Jason; he'll pop up any month of the year he feels like. The 13th falls on two Fridays in 2017: The first in January, and the second today. It'll occur twice a year up to 2020, too, giving Jason more opportunities to catch unsuspecting victims by surprise. Who would expect Jason to appear during Winter holiday festivities, or at the onset of pumpkin spice season, or in the doldrums of Spring? Jason has no moorings confining him to specific spaces or occasions. He's everywhere. He's anywhere. He's as happy to kill you around Thanksgiving as he is in June.
And that's scary as hell. The 13th falling on a Friday is bad enough luck on its own merits, should you be the superstitious type; tack on a Jason Voorhees rampage, and "luck" doesn't matter. Hitting every red light on your commute when you're already late for work is bad luck. Haplessly stumbling onto Jason's radar when he's on the warpath, that's basically a death sentence handed down from on high. It's fate.
Maybe staying relevant is easy when you're functionally immortal. Maybe it's easier still when you're also a massive influence on an entire genre sub-category. Jason's relevance is assured by his symbolic trappings more than his stubborn deathlessness. Neglect your calendar at your own peril.
Mansoor Mithaiwala wrote:Damian Shannon and Mark Swift – the screenwriting duo behind the 2009 Friday the 13th remake – have released the first few pages from their unmade sequel. Horror movie franchises, particularly slasher films, are one of the cornerstones of the filmmaking industry, and the Friday the 13th franchise is one of them. The original film, which followed the slasher killer Jason Voorhees as he murders a group of teenagers at Camp Crystal Lake, released in 1980 and was directed by Sean S. Cunningham with a script from Victor Miller.
Despite being ridiculed by critics, the original film has since gone down as one of the genre’s most revered cult classics. Furthermore, its enormous commercial success was enough to spawn an entire franchise, which now consists of 12 movies and a TV show, not to mention the countless novels, comic books, and video games that have also released. After some time, though, Platinum Dunes and Crystal Lake Entertainment attempted to reboot the franchise with Marcus Nispel’ 2009 remake. The movie, although chastised by critics, was the second highest-grossing release in the series, and there were initially plans to develop a sequel. Unfortunately, that sequel never released.
Shannon and Swift revealed the title of their abandoned sequel earlier this week – entitled Friday the 13th: Camp Blood – The Death of Jason Voorhees, a callback to the first movie’s working title: Friday The 13th: A Long Night At Camp Blood – and in celebration of Friday the 13th today, the duo have released the first pages from their rejected script on Twitter.
The sequel would have reportedly closed the franchise for good, with the death of the series’ titular killer. And according to the above script pages, the sequel (and franchise finale) would have taken place during the winter – a first for the series, considering each previous installment was set during the spring/summer months. Unfortunately, in order to co-produce Christopher Nolan’s Interstellar, New Line Cinema’s parent company, Warner Bros., relinquished the franchise rights to Paramount Pictures in 2013, and Paramount has been attempting their own reboot ever since.
At this point, it’s unlikely that the 2009 remake will receive its long-awaited sequel. However, considering that Paramount recently canceled Breck Eisner’s planned reboot after the poor critical and commercial reception of F. Javier Gutiérrez’s Rings, it’s possible that the studio would give Shannon and Swift’s script another look over. Until that happens, though, the Friday the 13th franchise will remain on ice for the time being.
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