DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:HollywoodBabylon wrote:Not having seen Star Wars
IPAMP!
I think the Dino Sith Lord would have been a more appropriate scolding...
HollywoodBabylon wrote:It's mad, I know, but I've just never gotten round to seeing Star Wars.
Chairman Kaga wrote:How does Kirk rate Jurassic Park 2 above Jurassic Park? That's just lunacy.
Nordling wrote:There's no way I can rank a movie that has a little girl take out a dinosaur with gymnastics over its predecessor that gave you genuine shock and awe when the dinosaurs show up on screen. I tremble when the T Rex roars at the end and the sign comes falling down. Nothing in THE LOST WORLD even approaches that. The only serviceable bit in that film is the San Diego sequence.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Well I think the San Diego sequence alone kicked the ass off of sooo much of Jurassic Park itself. Plus JP1 cheated us terribly out of any genuine terror for the characters.
SPOILERS.
All the main characters surived - and you knew that they were gonna. That sense of safety and innocence really betrayed the drama of the film. As someone else said 'It fails the Jaws test miserably'. At least in The Lost World you actually did get a bigger body count onscreen and you felt that these reptilian fuckers were more dangerous.
Nordling wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Well I think the San Diego sequence alone kicked the ass off of sooo much of Jurassic Park itself. Plus JP1 cheated us terribly out of any genuine terror for the characters.
SPOILERS.
All the main characters surived - and you knew that they were gonna. That sense of safety and innocence really betrayed the drama of the film. As someone else said 'It fails the Jaws test miserably'. At least in The Lost World you actually did get a bigger body count onscreen and you felt that these reptilian fuckers were more dangerous.
What are you talking about? Anyone that's seen a Spielberg film knows that no one's really safe. I never felt that anyone was completely safe in JURASSIC PARK. Spielberg's killed kids before in movies. On the contrary, I knew exactly who was going to live and die in LOST WORLD.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I also think that the carnage in JP1 is missing too though. 'People are dieing!' Attenborough says.
Well who and how?
Nordling wrote:Spielberg's killed kids before in movies.
DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:Nordling wrote:Spielberg's killed kids before in movies.
Bah! He killed a the one kid onna the raft inna Jaws pre-E.T. (when a he became alla kid-friendly anna such) anna that was inna the book, anna the only kids he's a killed post-E.T. was a the little Jewish children inna the Schindler's List, anna only then a 'cos he wanted to win a the Osc.... er I mean, a 'cos he was a trying to make a the statement about a the Nazi brutality, no?
Nordling wrote:DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:Nordling wrote:Spielberg's killed kids before in movies.
Bah! He killed a the one kid onna the raft inna Jaws pre-E.T. (when a he became alla kid-friendly anna such) anna that was inna the book, anna the only kids he's a killed post-E.T. was a the little Jewish children inna the Schindler's List, anna only then a 'cos he wanted to win a the Osc.... er I mean, a 'cos he was a trying to make a the statement about a the Nazi brutality, no?
Wrong. He killed a kid in HOOK.
Nordling wrote:
Wrong. He killed a kid in HOOK.
Nordling wrote:Wrong. He killed a kid in HOOK.
Nordling wrote:it's obvious Spielberg didn't really care about either one of those films.
HollywoodBabylon wrote:The only distinguishable thing about Hook is that Spielberg managed to coax one of the very worst performances I've seen Dustin Hoffman give. It was frankly embarrassing. Pantomime stuff.
seppukudkurosawa wrote:HollywoodBabylon wrote:The only distinguishable thing about Hook is that Spielberg managed to coax one of the very worst performances I've seen Dustin Hoffman give. It was frankly embarrassing. Pantomime stuff.
"It's behind you!"
"Oh no it isn't!"
"It's behind you!"
"Oh no it isn't"
"It's behind you!"
"Oh no...wait, what's behind me?"
"Your career!"
Nordling wrote:You can always tell when the Beard's really engaged in a film. Both HOOK and THE LOST WORLD are paint-by-numbers filmmaking, and it's obvious Spielberg didn't really care about either one of those films.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:question for the folks who voted for E.T. - do you believe in God? Forgive my impertinence, just curious...
tapehead wrote:Keepcoolbutcare wrote:question for the folks who voted for E.T. - do you believe in God? Forgive my impertinence, just curious...
It was Baudrillard who made the comparisons between ET and Jesus Christ, yes?
Chairman Kaga wrote:unikrunk wrote:Movies like Jaws and even AI are awesome, but fall into pop-corn cinema for me. Love them, just don’t think of them as in the same league as his serious stuff.
I disagree though Jaws ushered in the summer blockbuster it's much more than just a popcorn flick. Brody's journey from bump on a log chief of police to hero is great. I still have yet to see AI so I can't agree or Ddisagree.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:there's also the political subtext of the morally bankrupt, corrupt capitalistic government angle, which coming on the heels of Watergate was no accident.
DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:Keepcoolbutca re wrote:there's also the political subtext of the morally bankrupt, corrupt capitalistic government angle, which coming on the heels of Watergate was no accident.
You bring uppa the good point, eh paisan? You gotta to wonder about a how many pictures there are outta there where a the context, she has a become totally lost onna the modern audiences, eh?
havocSchultz wrote:DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:You bring uppa the good point, eh paisan? You gotta to wonder about a how many pictures there are outta there where a the context, she has a become totally lost onna the modern audiences, eh?
Like your Kong remake...
DinoDeLaurentiis wrote:Keepcoolbutca re wrote:there's also the political subtext of the morally bankrupt, corrupt capitalistic government angle, which coming on the heels of Watergate was no accident.
You bring uppa the good point, eh paisan? You gotta to wonder about a how many pictures there are outta there where a the context, she has a become totally lost onna the modern audiences, eh?
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:question for the folks who voted for E.T. - do you believe in God? Forgive my impertinence, just curious...
HollywoodBabylon wrote:Keepcoolbutcare wrote:question for the folks who voted for E.T. - do you believe in God? Forgive my impertinence, just curious...
Hedging my bets I'll give Bunuel's classic quote: "Thank God I'm an atheist."
seppukudkurosawa wrote:HollywoodBabylon wrote:Keepcoolbutcare wrote:question for the folks who voted for E.T. - do you believe in God? Forgive my impertinence, just curious...
Hedging my bets I'll give Bunuel's classic quote: "Thank God I'm an atheist."
Have you ever read Bunuel's "My Last Breath", HB? A film geek friend of mine who's considerably more knowledgable than me swears by it, but I've not heard much about it. I do know it supposedly dishes up a lot of dirt about Hollywood, crazy surrealists and the like, so it sounds like just my kind of read.
Sorry for the off-topic post.
HollywoodBabylon wrote:Sepp, yes, I've read it a couple of times - it's pretty short for an autobiography (only about 250 pages) and split into easy chapters. It's the kind of book you can read in one go; a concise and intelligent overview not only of him and his work but also over the surrealist movement itself and his place in it. And, yes, it's sprinkled throughout with an impressive array of 20th Century art and film luminaries who Bunuel's known or encountered along the way. It's also quite an honest and opinionated book as you'd expect, but highly entertaining all the same and I'd definitely recommend it.
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