Knocked Up Review Thread

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With 10 being the best and 1 being the worst, how would you rate Knocked Up...?

10...
10
25%
9...
10
25%
8...
13
33%
7...
3
8%
6...
2
5%
5...
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No votes
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1
3%
3...
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No votes
2...
0
No votes
1...
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No votes
I'm waiting for DVD/TV...
1
3%
I will not be seeing this...
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Total votes : 40

Postby Maui on Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:33 pm

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:not only that, but ask a decent number of chicks, and they'll agree, Seth Rogen is teh cute.


Hell yeah, he's Canadian.
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Postby Theta on Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:54 pm

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Becuase losers don't turn their lives around *snaps fingers* just like that. And honestly that's all Ben was, a loser.


Wee-elll...you'd actually be surprised. Like I said, Apatow could have communicated better than it happened over a span of time. But you'd be amazed what people are capable of when confronted with a good reason to get their shit together.

Regardless, I am still stunned that Alison slept with him, period. That's the biggest suspension of belief in the film, and sadly it's basically the premise. "What if this guy got you pregnant?", simply wouldn't of happened, at least not how it did in the film.


I believe it: A) she was drunk, B) he was funny, and C) he was the only guy she met who wasn't a complete asshole. Did Ben incredibly luck out? Yup. But I've certainly seen it happen.
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Postby HeadlessCrane on Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:04 pm

Becuase losers don't turn their lives around *snaps fingers* just like that. And honestly that's all Ben was, a loser.


He wasn't a loser. He was just a stupid kid who needed to grow up. And it happens all the time. And it wasn't an overnight change. It took 8 months. You know. The time it took for her to have her baby.

Regardless, I am still stunned that Alison slept with him, period. That's the biggest suspension of belief in the film, and sadly it's basically the premise. "What if this guy got you pregnant?", simply wouldn't of happened, at least not how it did in the film.


I do not know what planet you live on? This happens all the time. And her character was clearly disposed to someone like Ben... though... she definitely wanted him to grow up, like he did by the end. She works in hollywood. She sees pretty rich idiot assholes every day for her job. She was a good hearted person and so was he.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:51 am

The Garbage Man wrote:Apatow didn't make the mistake of trying too hard to create likable characters: Ben's an inconsiderate dick at times.


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Postby Nordling on Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:16 am

It's always been funny to me how people can accept magical rings, cars that turn into robots, lightsabers, superheroes, and Bruce Willis surviving massive explosions but have trouble grasping how a character in a romantic comedy could possibly have sex with the really pretty girl.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:30 am

I think I can see why some people see them as two different things. They're both more or less storytelling devices, but the choice to sleep with a man you wouldn't normally be attracted to (or the viewer thinks you wouldn't normally be attracted to) calls into question whether or not you can invest in the characters as well.
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Postby Nordling on Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:31 am

But it happens every day. There's lots of guys who totally date outside their weight class. I see it all the time. Go to BNAT sometime - I see lots of geeks with some fantastic looking women.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:39 am

Nah I believe you, I'm just saying if someone who saw the movie thought it was out of character, I can see why it would bother them.
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Postby Theta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:49 am

Nordling wrote:It's always been funny to me how people can accept magical rings, cars that turn into robots, lightsabers, superheroes, and Bruce Willis surviving massive explosions but have trouble grasping how a character in a romantic comedy could possibly have sex with the really pretty girl.


Denial. Nobody likes to think somebody on their "level" of attractiveness is doing better in the hot sex partner sweeps.
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Postby Vegeta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:07 am

I never said that attractive women never sleep with not so attractive guys.

What I said that she would have never have slept with him in a million years.
Regardless of her being drunk, I have several reasons why I think this:

1) She was a very successful woman. I do recall her talking about her job and her
promotion when they met. I don't recall her asking what he did for a living til
the next day, and her reaction was utter and complete horror. Am I to believe that
she didn't ask this the night before, you know, before she slept with him? I felt Ben
was an honest guy and would of answered honestly, if asked. The likelyhood
of this question being asked and him answering honestly is fairly high.
Unemployed/Porn Site Designer = No Sex!

2. He was an avid stoner. It was like a huge part of his life, and she didn't
smoke it. The likelyhood he didn't go out and get stoned, invite her along, or
talk at length about weed smoking is highly unlikely. Oh and if you recall her reaction
to this the next day... utter and complete horror.
Survey says = No nookie!

3. His friends were there. I do recall she met the sleaziest of them, and likely most
acceptable on first meeting. I just have a hard time believing his friends wouldn't of came
over and f!@#ed up any action for the evening or he invited her to sit with them and
therefore f!@#ed up any action for the evening. Because as we all recall, what was her
reaction upon meeting all his friends... utter and complete horror.
Friends in attendance = no punanny!
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:08 am

Veg have you every heard the saying... 'any holes a goal'?

I rest my case...

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Postby Vegeta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:09 am

MonkeyM666 wrote:Veg have you every heard the saying... 'any holes a goal'?

I rest my case...

thankyou


Nope. :?
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Postby MonkeyM666 on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:18 am

Well imagine that I actually typed that post correctly and included the stupid, fraking ' in the 'hole's' and then think about the idea that people fuck all the time for no reason, and they'll fuck anywhere (on a person) for no reason.

Any Hole's a goal...

See? :)
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Postby Nordling on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:26 am

Vegeta wrote:I never said that attractive women never sleep with not so attractive guys.

What I said that she would have never have slept with him in a million years.
Regardless of her being drunk, I have several reasons why I think this:

1) She was a very successful woman. I do recall her talking about her job and her
promotion when they met. I don't recall her asking what he did for a living til
the next day, and her reaction was utter and complete horror. Am I to believe that
she didn't ask this the night before, you know, before she slept with him? I felt Ben
was an honest guy and would of answered honestly, if asked. The likelyhood
of this question being asked and him answering honestly is fairly high.
Unemployed/Porn Site Designer = No Sex!


Oh come on. This is spurious at best. I've met people before where the subject just didn't turn up. Plus, maybe Alison isn't as superficial as you might like to make out. I feel this may be coming from someplace personal instead of a failing of the film. We have no idea what kind of person Alison is before the film, but it's pretty damn obvious that neither one of them is a virgin. If she was truly replused by Ben on every level, she never would have even danced with him. She may have been drunk, but she wasn't that drunk. You're acting like Ben practically date-raped her. It was a mutual choice. Her revulsion in the morning came from lots of places, not just Ben's looks. It may have been self-revulsion at how she let herself get that drunk. But, at the same time, she is still responsible for her choice, and she chose to sleep with Ben. She was not too drunk to be unable to say no.

Vegeta wrote:2. He was an avid stoner. It was like a huge part of his life, and she didn't
smoke it. The likelyhood he didn't go out and get stoned, invite her along, or
talk at length about weed smoking is highly unlikely. Oh and if you recall her reaction
to this the next day... utter and complete horror.
Survey says = No nookie!


She wasn't reacting to just the pot-smoking, she was reacting to the whole package. And remember, at the time she didn't know he was pregnant, and honestly thought she'd never see him again.

Second, so she can sleep with a guy on the first date but the entire idea of pot disgusts her? C'mon. These people aren't in a vacuum.

Vegeta wrote:3. His friends were there. I do recall she met the sleaziest of them, and likely most
acceptable on first meeting. I just have a hard time believing his friends wouldn't of came
over and f!@#ed up any action for the evening or he invited her to sit with them and
therefore f!@#ed up any action for the evening. Because as we all recall, what was her
reaction upon meeting all his friends... utter and complete horror.
Friends in attendance = no punanny!


Are you kidding? Embarrassing your bud is what guys DO. And it wasn't utter and complete horror. I'm sensing a real lack of connection here about how people really work. Your frienda are not you. And, she was already going to have the baby. Do you think her so superficial as to cut out the father and the baby because his friends seemed like assholes?

I'm reading, pretty much exclusively from guys, across the Internet, a total failure in understanding the women characters of this movie. Many don't understand why she didn't have an abortion, without understanding that pro-choice means EXACTLY FUCKING THAT. She made her decision, and the audience has to respect that. She decided to have the child. What kind of vacant person would question that? She weighed the variables, and decided to have it. Do we have to have the entire decision-making process spelled out for us? People are already complaining the film is too long. It's also very telling about who's in a longterm relationship and who's not. This film portrays relationships in a refreshing and realistic way. I've been Pete in my life, I've been Ben in my life, and I'm certain some women have been Alison and Debbie in theirs. It pisses me off a little bit, and it makes me a little sad too, that there's people out there who really don't know what a love partner means or is. Too bad Ben didn't kill some stormtroopers, huh? That would have made it much more believable.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:41 am

@ Nord - I think that we were supposed to think that Alison's choice isn't one she would have normally made if she weren't in a good mood because of her promotion and somewhat drunk. Ben's a funny guy, and he deserves credit for that; and Alison wasn't drunk when she chose to dance with him, and she deserves credit for that; but I think that the long, loving shot of Ben's ass cheeks sticking out of the covers while Alison looked at him with something resembling a grimace is supposed to indicate that a part of her was having second thoughts. Not to say it was out of character (OR that she's shallow), but that I think the entire point was that she wouldn't have slept with him under regular circumstances, for several reasons, but that it wasn't a normal night.
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Postby Theta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:43 am

Nordling wrote:Many don't understand why she didn't have an shushmortion...


I fixed your post. :D

In all seriousness, Nord, come on. Does it surprise you, at all, that legions of dateless male movie nerds don't understand a damn thing about relationships, dating, and how people get laid (Veg, NOT a dig at you)?

Let's face it, a lot of these guys never get laid because they're social retards who learned everything about women from shitty '80s sex comedies. A good chunk of them are probably still in high school, at the very least emotionally, and they don't like that Apatow has them nailed (tell me you don't see the mindset of Ben's friends all across the Internet.)


It'd bother me more if "Knocked Up" wasn't clearly finding an audience outside of dateless male movie nerds. As it stands, to hell with 'em. It's a hit without them. They can go jerk off to "Transformers" footage and the rest of us can enjoy the movie.
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Postby Nordling on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:48 am

Maybe she wouldn't have sober, but she did when she was having a good time and her inhibitions were down. I've done stupid shit when I was drunk. At my bachelor party, I threw a glass bottle in the parking lot of a strip club and we hauled ass out of there. Later on that night, I almost mistook an ATM for a urinal. I have no shame. I thank God I didn't hook up with someone that night, because it totally could have happened. And before you hop in with "Well, you're a guy," that says more about you than you might want to admit. As 40 YOV said, "You're putting the pussy up on a pedestal." Women make mistakes too. But at the same time, she didn't want to judge the guy based on one night when she did stupid things herself.

And I think it's silly that people have problems making that Alison plot point leap, when in real life it happens all the time.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:59 am

I feel like I'm caught between two sides here. I am being kind of devil's advocate-y, but I don't completely disagree with what you're saying, Nord; I can definitely buy Alison and Ben doing what they did. But I don't think that Vegeta's logic is completely flawed, either, and I would even say that some of the arguments he presents for why Alison might not be interested in Ben were presented in the movie itself. Plus, he didn't say all that bulljive about Ben being ugly or Alison not wanting him around her baby because of his friends as far as I can tell, so I'm thinking you might be angry at somebody else.
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Postby Theta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:06 pm

For the record, I get where Veg is coming from, I just don't agree with him, that's all. I think Nord's more pissed off about the TBers and their equivalents than anything else.
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Postby Peven on Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:21 pm

i think Nordling has been watching a lot of Oprah. :P :wink: :lol:
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Postby Nordling on Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:30 pm

Once, while I was drunk, I mistook Oprah for a urinal.
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Postby Vegeta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:06 pm

I will say that I am making a bigger stink than needed, but I just
think it is important to the story. The fact that after he approached
her table the scene is basically a "party night" montage is telling.
The writers didn't want to explain the "meeting to nookie" story,
or at least flesh it out beyond Ben getting incredibly lucky. Also, keep
in mind I enjoyed the movie, but the glaring fact (imo) that it is highly
unlikely they would have actually slept together that night remains
with me.
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Postby Brocktune on Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:17 pm

Vegeta wrote:Okay, I'll let that go, but another problem was that all of his friends, and him, were fucking total foul-mouthed drug addict loser jerkoffs.
Sure, it plays for laughs, and at one time I was just like them, but it got old fast.


and yet, you come here, to teh zone on a regular basis?
i no get it. :wink:
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Postby Peven on Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:19 pm

Veg is just slumming when he comes here.
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Postby Vegeta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:19 pm

Brocktune wrote:
Vegeta wrote:Okay, I'll let that go, but another problem was that all of his friends, and him, were fucking total foul-mouthed drug addict loser jerkoffs.
Sure, it plays for laughs, and at one time I was just like them, but it got old fast.


and yet, you come here, to teh zone on a regular basis?
i no get it. :wink:

Oh Snap!!!! :shock:

A Slam on teh Zone! :lol:
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Postby Keepcoolbutcare on Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:16 pm

Nordling wrote: I'm reading, pretty much exclusively from guys, across the Internet, a total failure in understanding the women characters of this movie.


here's a female perspective that you may not have come across.

Apatow writes men with far more insight and acuity than he writes women. As a result, his portrait of contemporary gender relations is unbalanced: Crude and hilarious in Guyville, he seizes up when he gets to Ladyland and allows himself to take refuge in comfortable clichés.


i don't necessarily agree with her, especially since I don't know which particular female characters created and written by males she doesn't think comes across as "unbalanced" and "cliche-y", but she does make a salient point or two.
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Postby Leckomaniac on Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:21 pm

Looks like Vegeta isn't the only one:

What motivates Alison Scott (Katherine Heigl of Grey's Anatomy), a successful, self-possessed, and officially hot reporter for the E! network, to have drunken sex with Ben Stone (Seth Rogen), an unemployed schlub who lives in the Valley with four Neanderthal buddies (Martin Starr, Jason Segel, Jay Baruchel, and Jonah Hill)? Don't get me wrong, I love funny Jewish guys with curly hair and low self-esteem (hi, sweetie!), but this is not a sociologically credible hookup. Without knowing a little more about Alison's romantic past or preferences, it's impossible not to take this mismatch as a sheer plot contrivance, a male fantasy a la According to Jim.


This comes from the review that KCBC posted.
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Postby Keepcoolbutcare on Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:39 pm

Lecko's quote from the article I linked wrote:Without knowing a little more about Alison's romantic past or preferences, it's impossible not to take this mismatch as a sheer plot contrivance, a male fantasy a la According to Jim.


or every single Woody Allen movie.

it's funny 'cuz she almost comes out and says the Woodman's name ("funny Jewish guys with...low self esteem") but then has to get an ACCORDING TO JIM jab out there instead...
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:01 pm

I don't think it's far out that Alison and Ben slept together--I read that Slate review last week and while I saw its point, I found it a bit shrill as well. I think it's just as much of a cliche that a beautiful woman only will sleep with a beautiful man, as much as it is for the beautiful woman to hook up with a total schlub. There's a variable called "chemistry" that dictates who hooks up with who. No one, except possibly in the most plastic and hollow of Hollywood circles goes "I'm pretty, you're pretty, we should SO have sex!"

I don't think we know enough about Alison to judge what sort of men she would normally speak to in a club--I think it's safe to say she's not a completely shallow, career-obsessed bitch or she would have had an abortion.

Also, the idea that pot-smoking and joblessness would come up in a club--please! It's impossible to talk in those places, they're dancing and drinking. They're having a laugh. And frankly, even if they did find some cozy spot to chat--sadly, the whole problem with meeting the opposite sex is that it takes way too long for the truth to come out. I've known guys over a year before learning they were alcoholics or stalkers.

Ben is incredibly charming when they first meet, buys her a drink and that goes a long way in a club, where everyone is usually self-absorbed and hooked up...or maybe that's just my rotten luck.
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Postby Theta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:54 pm

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:
Nordling wrote: I'm reading, pretty much exclusively from guys, across the Internet, a total failure in understanding the women characters of this movie.


here's a female perspective that you may not have come across.


Thanks for the link. I disagree with it on a few levels (and I actually think Nord's rant about how it's pro-CHOICE applies to her remarks) but it's interesting to read.
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Postby Vegeta on Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:33 pm

Lady Sheridan wrote:Also, the idea that pot-smoking and joblessness would come up in a club--please! It's impossible to talk in those places, they're dancing and drinking. They're having a laugh. And frankly, even if they did find some cozy spot to chat--sadly, the whole problem with meeting the opposite sex is that it takes way too long for the truth to come out. I've known guys over a year before learning they were alcoholics or stalkers.


Not to keep beating this dead horse, but...

It's hard to believe that she wouldn't of asked him what he did for a living after she talks about her job and awesome promotion... just saying.
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Postby bastard_robo on Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:59 am

Vegeta wrote:
Lady Sheridan wrote:Also, the idea that pot-smoking and joblessness would come up in a club--please! It's impossible to talk in those places, they're dancing and drinking. They're having a laugh. And frankly, even if they did find some cozy spot to chat--sadly, the whole problem with meeting the opposite sex is that it takes way too long for the truth to come out. I've known guys over a year before learning they were alcoholics or stalkers.


Not to keep beating this dead horse, but...

It's hard to believe that she wouldn't of asked him what he did for a living after she talks about her job and awesome promotion... just saying.


The VERY few date that i've been on, usually I dont say much about my job and I usually try to avoid too many personal tibits... And I've had plenty of women just go on about themselves for hours becasue, from what i've gathered, women like to talk about themselves.. and %90 of time, they really just want feedback on them, and dont give two shits about your shit...

But thats just from me.


Come on.... havent any of you ever been to a party? A club? You get a couple of drinks, you have a good time! You dont boggle down with the personal crap to blow your high! You get stupid and try to score! Hence the points of partys and clubs!
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Postby Ribbons on Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:06 am

Leslie Mann (Debbie) was so great in this movie. Most of the cast was great and Paul Rudd has a way of delivering his lines that makes me laugh even when they're not funny, but she just cracked me up. The whole "doorman" scene between her and the bouncer was hilarious.

A couple people didn't like the character of Debbie and I can understand where that's coming from, but I think that Judd Apatow tried to show the problems with both relationships objectively (the scene where Alison calls Ben because she wants to tell him she's pregnant and he and his friends are dry humping one another is a good example).
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Postby Maui on Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:20 am

Lady Sheridan wrote:I don't think it's far out that Alison and Ben slept together--I read that Slate review last week and while I saw its point, I found it a bit shrill as well. I think it's just as much of a cliche that a beautiful woman only will sleep with a beautiful man, as much as it is for the beautiful woman to hook up with a total schlub. There's a variable called "chemistry" that dictates who hooks up with who. No one, except possibly in the most plastic and hollow of Hollywood circles goes "I'm pretty, you're pretty, we should SO have sex!"


Yup, yup and yup! You summed that up nicely.
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Postby bamf on Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:53 pm

This review is late—much like a woman when she gets Knocked Up



Knocked Up is the best Horror film I have ever seen. Apatow made a film that is hilarious and frightening. The story has the charm of a personal tale like Kevin Smith’s Chasing Amy. I cannot give an assessment of camera work, lighting and edit choices. I was completely wrapped into the characters’ story and anyone who no longer has their V card will walk out with birth control as their religion.

I wouldn’t suggest taking a new date to this movie. It would be the equivalent of a woman not shaving her legs, or Shannyn Sossaman looking through the STD book in The Rules of Attraction. Men will swear off sex until the last residual of the third act surprise leaves their memory like the goatse(not a typo, do not google that). I don’t see couples jumping right into bed after screening this one, not without a possibly uncomfortable conversation, but that’s probably a good thing. While there is no question why this film earned its R rating—I feel it may very well be a necessary film for every teenager to see. High School health teachers who are tasked to walk over the sex-ed for their class would be strengthened by screening this film (with consent of course) and could model a whole curriculum on the issues discussed. Knocked Up gives parents and teachers a springboard for education that is relevant to the dry curriculum, filled with the usual giggles and sighs. Instead of showing how to put a condom on to a banana—something I was taught, yet still have never done—it’s showing the consequences of why you should be sure to put the protection on. I was kicked out of my sex Ed class in High School for laughing too much once. They said I was being immature, I said I was laughing at the thought that I might actually have sex while still in High School.

I have no favorite scenes from the movie. I love it all. A lot of improv went into this production and they reaped gold from that move. The story moves through the cast with clarity; no one gets lost. Katherine Heigl and Seth Rogen give performances that do not feel acted at all. They really nailed their rolls and I think it has to do with the fact they weren’t restricted to what was on the page for the day. No one steals the show per say, but Ryan Secrest has his moment to change my opinion of him ever so slightly like Bob Saget in Half Baked. Paul Rudd is an actor I admire. Just look at the man’s resume filled with versatility and always delivering. Who would have thought the Dumbledore guy from Object of My Affection could produce such a different performance in Anchorman (another Apatow production)? In Knocked Up he gives the everyman take on a husband in the early years of an un-steady marriage. He shows the side of parenting that the children never get to see; parents growing up and coming to terms with their responsibility. Rudd is one of my favorites—I just have to glow about him. (And I don’t care what IMDB says, he is the shaved space monkey in Fight Club)

This movie maintains humor while incorporating a dramatization of real life events that many out there can relate to. The Break-up did this very well and was a story I saw parts of my life in far too well. In fact, during that film I had to tilt my head befuddled. There were a couple of times where I was like, oh my god, I have had this fight. Maybe that’s just a sad commentary on my dating life but the two films share valuable qualities. Both had casts with chemistry. And they both held no punches back on telling stories that involved more truth then the average audience is exposed to. I’m looking at you Wild Hogs.

With nothing to do with luck, Apatow should see this film continue to succeed. I won’t call it a sleeper, but whenever a comedy breaks 15 mill for its opening weekend you know you have done something special. Are the big numbers enjoyed because of a backlash against inflated fantasy films like Pirates 3, where at the end all I learned is that if you scorn a woman, she will end up a “bigâ€
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Postby Conroy420 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:53 pm

I'm amazed at how deeply you guys are arguing about this.

It's a comedy, let it go.

A funny one at that.

Also, the whole debate about if she would/wouldn't have sex with Ben.

Stupid arugment.

No guy was talking to her, he was nice, they drank A LOT, it happens, and it happens a lot.

The movie was great, really funny stuff all around. Probably the greatest date movie ever. There was just so much humour for both sides.

I was amazed at how much the film stuck it to the enertainment industry. Pretty much every work scene with Alison was just satrizing every aspect of that celebrity culture.

Well done stuff, and I'm really stoaked on 'Superbad'

8/10
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:08 pm

Conroy420 wrote:let it go.


Well considering the last post was 4 days ago...
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Postby Conroy420 on Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:35 pm

haha Good call!

I just saw it last night, so it's all fresh in my mind
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Postby Flumm on Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:02 pm

So...

For the first time in a while I caught The Daily Show, only to catch Paul Rudd on the Knocked Up carny tour.

Stewart can be a little annoying at times, but I really think the man carries off one of the most difficult jobs imaginable (namely selling himself and politics in one hillarious package), and does it like few others could.

(...it still gets me that for half of the interviews he still, quite happily it seems, reads those New York Times Best Seller thesis of the week tomes, and manages to make me believe he did, rather than just say he did...)

And Paul Rudd deserves all sorts of stuff to be said here too, to be sure, but I'm pretty sure I'm over running my Words Vs People Giving A Crap quota today already, and so I'll FFW.

This made me smile for five minutes, anyhows...

Tuxedo Casual.
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Postby Eunuch Provocateur on Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:25 am

So I take it fleshofthestars.com took off? It seems like that was brushed off. And how does a website like that make money? Ad Revenue?
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:42 am

I never really posted my thoughts, but I gave this film an 8/10. I liked it a lot, but not as much as 40 YOV.

Vegeta, not to step on your toes, but I get the feeling that you don't like stoners. I see you having a crush on some girl, like Katherine Heigl, and she chose some stoner over you or something. It's like "Why choose that jerk, loser stoner when you can have me?!?!," but she doesn't even look your way. And you're charming, dammit!
Sorry, but I just got that image from your rant. Funnily, after seeing this, I posed the same question to my buddy. The chances of him nailing her seemed a little far fetched, but the characters seemed so real, I was rooting for them and I was happy for him.
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Postby Zarles on Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:13 pm

Finally saw this, 10/10 for me. I didn't stop laughing the entire way through. For me, Knocked Up kicks the ass out of 40YOV. This movie is much better-written, better acted, and miles funnier and more realistic than Virgin ever was even in its best moments.

I re-watched Virgin the other day after only seeing it once, and I found it to be sorta silly and amateurish. Didn't really hold up to a second viewing for me, but Knocked Up will be a movie I'd watch over and over again. It's like a re-boot of 'She's Having A Baby'.
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Postby buster00 on Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:32 am

My buddy George ended up pussing out on me for FF2 today, so I ended up seeing Knocked Up with my girlfriend. I wanted to see it anyway, so no big.

We both laughed our asses off! At least as good as 40 Year Old Virgin, if not better.


I happily give it 9/10.

Eunuch Provocateur wrote:So I take it fleshofthestars.com took off? It seems like that was brushed off. And how does a website like that make money? Ad Revenue?


I'm not a member, but I think MrSkin.com makes money from subscribers. You'd have to ask them, though.
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Postby Pacino86845 on Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:10 pm

Keepcoolbutcare wrote:
Nordling wrote: I'm reading, pretty much exclusively from guys, across the Internet, a total failure in understanding the women characters of this movie.


here's a female perspective that you may not have come across.

Apatow writes men with far more insight and acuity than he writes women. As a result, his portrait of contemporary gender relations is unbalanced: Crude and hilarious in Guyville, he seizes up when he gets to Ladyland and allows himself to take refuge in comfortable clichés.


i don't necessarily agree with her, especially since I don't know which particular female characters created and written by males she doesn't think comes across as "unbalanced" and "cliche-y", but she does make a salient point or two.


Bah, why she gotta go and burst everyone's bubble like that!!??

So I'm totally late to the Knocked Up party, and I guess I don't have much to add since most of you really liked it. I really liked it as well, more so than 40-Year-Old Virgin (hey, you started the comparison, peoples)... which I'd liked well enough but Knocked Up hit closer to home and because it doesn't go for non-stop gags, it comes across as the result of more confident filmmaking/writing, and wholly benefits as a consequence.

8/10
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Postby Vegeta on Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:37 pm

Nachokoolaid wrote:I never really posted my thoughts, but I gave this film an 8/10. I liked it a lot, but not as much as 40 YOV.

Vegeta, not to step on your toes, but I get the feeling that you don't like stoners.


Maybe, used to be one (like by the bushels)... perhaps, I have the whole
"I am so passed that" mentality going on. Regardless, I still think I have
some valid points. :-P
Also, despite my criticism, I did enjoy the film. :wink:
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Postby Chilli on Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:39 pm

WHOA

Have to articulate my thoughts, but thats easily the best film I've seen this year and one of the best I've seen in ages.

ETA

Thoughts are buzzing, so this'll come out rather rattled and sparsely (if at all) with the coherence. Best film this year for me by far, best film of the 00s by far, one of the best films I've seen period so far. Just flat out awesome. Its funny, its beautiful, its poignant, its genuine and its just so damn painfully realistic that, at points, its like watching some actual take place.

Yes, its a Hollywood film, there's no mistaking that, but the film doesn't sugarcoat. There's a happy ending, of sorts, but the film doesn't naively paint that it has all the answers. Rogan is great, Heigl is better, the supporting cast is terrific, and there's a bit in a hotel room that manages to be funny and dramatic within the space of three seconds intervals without missing a step.

Its the sort of film that makes you appreciate life, want to take chances, want to experience it fuller.

10/10.
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Postby Maui on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:41 pm

Chilli wrote:WHOA

Have to articulate my thoughts, but thats easily the best film I've seen this year and one of the best I've seen in ages.

ETA

Thoughts are buzzing, so this'll come out rather rattled and sparsely (if at all) with the coherence. Best film this year for me by far, best film of the 00s by far, one of the best films I've seen period so far. Just flat out awesome. Its funny, its beautiful, its poignant, its genuine and its just so damn painfully realistic that, at points, its like watching some actual take place.

Yes, its a Hollywood film, there's no mistaking that, but the film doesn't sugarcoat. There's a happy ending, of sorts, but the film doesn't naively paint that it has all the answers. Rogan is great, Heigl is better, the supporting cast is terrific, and there's a bit in a hotel room that manages to be funny and dramatic within the space of three seconds intervals without missing a step.

Its the sort of film that makes you appreciate life, want to take chances, want to experience it fuller.

10/10.



Glad you liked it Chilli!

I preferred 40 Yr Old Virgin to Knocked up - just more laughs in 40, still both great, funny flicks! :D
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Postby Chilli on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:53 pm

Its strange really. I think Anchorman is funnier than 40V, but 40V is a better film... now I think 40V is funnier than Knocked Up, but Knocked Up is a better film.

I think the DVD of Knocked Up will have some brilliant out-takes. It seems this time they cut back the constant LOL humour to suit the story.
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Postby Maui on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:58 pm

Chilli wrote:Its strange really. I think Anchorman is funnier than 40V



I need to watch Anchorman again. I think I fell asleep during the movie and it seems everyone here thinks it's hilarious.
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Postby unikrunk on Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:59 pm

The very premise of this movie is terrifying. Seriously, I can watch horror movies all day long with no prob, but put an unexpected pregnancy in front of me, and I am scared out of my mind.

Even the adverts for this film give me minor anxiety.
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