Chairman Kaga wrote:After Kurt's turn in Grindhouse I wonder if this whole EfNY sequel may be reworked as a vehicle for another sequel instead. T's films seem to generate renewed interest in his leads.
Peven wrote:i have much less problem with Butler as Snake than i do with Wiseman directing.
Ribbons wrote:Well... hope you liked Die Hard 4, because Len Wiseman is directing Escape From New York Begins
Fawst wrote:I don't understand all the hate that Wiseman gets. I think he's got a great eye. This is an issue I have in general with a lot of "I love/hate this director" arguments. The director is not the only reason a movie will succeed or fail.
Underworld.
Give that script a good scrubdown and you have a great movie. Seriously, it's not Len's fault that there was a useless fight scene in the middle of the movie between two completely useless characters that no one cared about (Vampire w/ Whips vs. Lycan). It was in the script.
havocSchultz wrote:Fawst wrote:Give that script a good scrubdown and you have a great movie. Seriously, it's not Len's fault that there was a useless fight scene in the middle of the movie between two completely useless characters that no one cared about (Vampire w/ Whips vs. Lycan). It was in the script.
Wiseman also co-wrote both Underworld movies...
Fawst wrote:You have a good point, Minstrel. I just think people shouldn't be so negative. Be cautiously optimistic. Underworld/Evolution were well-directed movies. This could be Wiseman's time to really shine.
He's fucking PERFECT for Gears of War...
havocSchultz wrote:Fawst wrote:I don't understand all the hate that Wiseman gets. I think he's got a great eye. This is an issue I have in general with a lot of "I love/hate this director" arguments. The director is not the only reason a movie will succeed or fail.
Underworld.
Give that script a good scrubdown and you have a great movie. Seriously, it's not Len's fault that there was a useless fight scene in the middle of the movie between two completely useless characters that no one cared about (Vampire w/ Whips vs. Lycan). It was in the script.
Wiseman also co-wrote both Underworld movies...
Chilli wrote:Fawst wrote:You have a good point, Minstrel. I just think people shouldn't be so negative. Be cautiously optimistic. Underworld/Evolution were well-directed movies. This could be Wiseman's time to really shine.
He's fucking PERFECT for Gears of War...
Dude, you're kidding right?
Granted I can only speak for Underworld, but that was one of the worst films I ever had to sit through. Awful direction, really banal and pedestrian looking. Granted DH4 had solid direction (if rather workmanlike), but lets not really praise the dude too much. He's not all that and a bag of cheese.
Yes there is some silly deus ex machina stuff going on there, but really... it's fucking VAMPIRES fighting WEREWOLVES. Gears of War is HULKING SOLDIERS vs. HULKING ALIEN SOLDIERS.
Fawst wrote:Chilli wrote:Fawst wrote:You have a good point, Minstrel. I just think people shouldn't be so negative. Be cautiously optimistic. Underworld/Evolution were well-directed movies. This could be Wiseman's time to really shine.
He's fucking PERFECT for Gears of War...
Dude, you're kidding right?
Granted I can only speak for Underworld, but that was one of the worst films I ever had to sit through. Awful direction, really banal and pedestrian looking. Granted DH4 had solid direction (if rather workmanlike), but lets not really praise the dude too much. He's not all that and a bag of cheese.
Not even close. You haven't seen Underworld: Evolution? It's about a hundred times better than the original. Yes there is some silly deus ex machina stuff going on there, but really... it's fucking VAMPIRES fighting WEREWOLVES. Gears of War is HULKING SOLDIERS vs. HULKING ALIEN SOLDIERS. He's already got a head start there. Considering how great some of the action sequences of U:E were, I can easily see Wiseman handling a GoW movie. The game isn't exactly a masterpiece of a story, I would argue that Wiseman could only IMPROVE it by writing it.
Trust me, Wiseman is as perfect for GoW as Bay was for Transformers. EFNY, I will cling to my idea that he'll be fine for it, but I also have zero care for the original. It was fun, it was interesting, for it's time it was great but... eh, it's no Big Trouble In Little China
havocSchultz wrote:Wiseman's out...Ratner's IN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Logan5 wrote:Fawst wrote:Chilli wrote:Fawst wrote:You have a good point, Minstrel. I just think people shouldn't be so negative. Be cautiously optimistic. Underworld/Evolution were well-directed movies. This could be Wiseman's time to really shine.
He's fucking PERFECT for Gears of War...
Dude, you're kidding right?
Granted I can only speak for Underworld, but that was one of the worst films I ever had to sit through. Awful direction, really banal and pedestrian looking. Granted DH4 had solid direction (if rather workmanlike), but lets not really praise the dude too much. He's not all that and a bag of cheese.
Not even close. You haven't seen Underworld: Evolution? It's about a hundred times better than the original. Yes there is some silly deus ex machina stuff going on there, but really... it's fucking VAMPIRES fighting WEREWOLVES. Gears of War is HULKING SOLDIERS vs. HULKING ALIEN SOLDIERS. He's already got a head start there. Considering how great some of the action sequences of U:E were, I can easily see Wiseman handling a GoW movie. The game isn't exactly a masterpiece of a story, I would argue that Wiseman could only IMPROVE it by writing it.
Trust me, Wiseman is as perfect for GoW as Bay was for Transformers. EFNY, I will cling to my idea that he'll be fine for it, but I also have zero care for the original. It was fun, it was interesting, for it's time it was great but... eh, it's no Big Trouble In Little China
Two points I'd like to add to this;
Wiseman is not perfect for GoW. Underworld is a good example of that. Not dirty enough. Underworld is just so clean and sleek. GoW should be dirty and hard. We need a director like Gans or Balaguero, not sure about Balaguero doing action though but Gans action is good.
Next point. The only thing that made Underworld: Evolution better than the original was that Kate Beckinsale was hotter.
havocSchultz wrote:Wiseman's out...Ratner's IN?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Chairman Kaga wrote:Phew....Hey I got an idea....Get Carpentar on it. He hasn't be doing anything for a while give the man a budget and hell cast Stuntman Mike himself again.....then set it somewhere else....This practically writes itself.
havocSchultz wrote:Ratner ESCAPES from New York!!! He is now OFF the project...
Lady Sheridan wrote:For the love of God, Loincloth Butler, JUMP SHIP NOW!!
Zarles wrote:Al_Shut wrote:Oh my god.
LS has the power to comand the Loincloth.
Would it be wise to argue with a woman with two giant guns? And pistols, too?
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