Where's the in-your-face, hard-hitting, muck-raking take-it-to-'em?

MasterWhedon wrote:I want to slap the shit out of whichever @$$hole conducted that interview. Those guys bitch more than anyone about Marvel, but when it comes time to interview two of the guys responsible for the new scuttlebutt, they ask the same bland, generic questions that have already been asked by twenty other sites.
Where's the in-your-face, hard-hitting, muck-raking take-it-to-'em?
MasterWhedon wrote:Where's the in-your-face, hard-hitting, muck-raking take-it-to-'em?
DennisMM wrote:They are assholes. What should we expect?
ETA: They should consider asking some of the Zoners to contribute to the comics coverage.
burlivesleftnut wrote:I hate those creeps.
burlivesleftnut wrote:I just read BND, and *gulp* I really liked it. I am still peaved at the shear stupidity of OMD, but if you can divorce yourself from that, then it's a pretty fun ride. I still don't get why Pete thinks 30 is too young to get married... maybe he was just lying to cover up his fear of committment. Just skip the May story and the Osbourne story... YAWNS.
burlivesleftnut wrote:god damn it! there goes my last friend.
MasterWhedon wrote:Bluebottle wrote:Yeah , but you're just looking at the small picture, and not what's really going on...
How would you like it if all the X-Men titles were erased, and First Class became the main 616 book?
Would you be thrilled if they destroyed all of Scott Summer's development from the last 30 years?
The truth of the matter is I have HUGE problems with the way mainstream comic books refuse to allow their characters to grow and change in significant ways. I quite honestly don't know if I could ever write for one of the "core" titles because all I'd be interested in doing is shifting the status quo, making character arcs where at the end our hero is vastly different than he was at the start.
But that's not how Marvel and DC operate, for better or worse.
I completely understand the frustration in the idea that years and years of continuity--fan-purchased continuity--are suddenly swept away, but I think Joe Q is right in that at some point Spider-Man veered a little too far away from the original mission statement. He grew up, got a job, got married... and suddenly he was Peter Banning when he should've stayed Peter Pan. Making some sort of "fix" to take things back closer to the original idea without having to reboot the entire universe to do it is a big, ballsy move--and I still think it's the right one.
And, yes, I suppose I would be a great deal more pissed if they had done this with the X-Men. (If that makes me a hypocrite, then it's one of a great many things to do so.) But Joe Q & Co. already put the "fix" on the mutant world by radically decreasing the number of mutants, getting the X-books back to their place as outcasts. That was the right call to make, as otherwise the X-Men were and are still very close to their original model.
Maybe I sound a little confused: "I wouldn't work this way, but he's right to do so." But that's just how I feel. Joe Q will be gone within the next few years, no doubt, and all he's trying to do is to make sure the Spider-Man he leaves behind hasn't changed so radically that it isn't recognizable to new readers who vaguely know Spider-Man. That's his job, and I think he's doing it well. Sucks that it took such a drastic, continuity-scrambling move to do so, but that's what it took.
The Garbage Man wrote:Holy shit...
Did you just reference Hook?
With a straight face?
DennisMM wrote:I smiled when I realized what he'd said. Good idea, bad movie.
The Garbage Man wrote:Holy shit...
Did you just reference Hook?
With a straight face?
MasterWhedon wrote:The Garbage Man wrote:Holy shit...
Did you just reference Hook?
With a straight face?
HHAARRR HARRR HARR ARRRRRRRRRARRR MATEY!!!
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HUMPHREY wrote: That's what really seems to bug me about this: you have the superhero character who out of all the big franchise characters is supposed to be the most "relatable", the guy that goes through the same pitfalls we're supposed to see in our lives and overcome like he does. So, when it comes time to finally break off something that apparently the higher ups find a little stifling to storytelling with him, what do they do? They don't deal with it like it tends to happen in real life--that sometimes people just grow apart and can't be together anymore, even though they still deep down love each other. They don't have something like all the recent trauma in Peter's life with his unmasking, constantly being on the run because of the Initiative act, and the shooting of Aunt May cause MJ to finally say she's had enough and can't deal with it anymore... instead we go to a stupid deus ex machina.
burlivesleftnut wrote:Oh fuck... the ASSHOLES didn't like it? It must mean I love it more than anything.
bluebottle wrote:burlivesleftnut wrote:Oh fuck... the ASSHOLES didn't like it? It must mean I love it more than anything.
you know, you can not like it... you're not being disloyal to dan slott.
i'll bet you any money that even he doesn't like it. i'll bet you he thinks, "darn it, all my life i wanted to write for spiderman and now i have to write this shit... darn it!"
bluebottle wrote:"hey, are you a casual fan? do you not want to be bothered with all the character development from over the last 30 years? is your spiderman knowledge basically a handful of Stan Lee era books and the Toby McGuire (seabiscuit) films? Then boy have we got the comic for you! It's called ULTIMATE spiderman! But if that's too confusing for you, then we've also flattened regular Spiderman's arc out into one giant straight line! Read Amazing Spiderman #1, then the issue on stands now, and you won't notice a lick of difference!"
burlivesleftnut wrote:bluebottle wrote::(
i miss MY spiderman.
You're incredibly selfish.
MasterWhedon wrote:bluebottle wrote:"hey, are you a casual fan? do you not want to be bothered with all the character development from over the last 30 years? is your spiderman knowledge basically a handful of Stan Lee era books and the Toby McGuire (seabiscuit) films? Then boy have we got the comic for you! It's called ULTIMATE spiderman! But if that's too confusing for you, then we've also flattened regular Spiderman's arc out into one giant straight line! Read Amazing Spiderman #1, then the issue on stands now, and you won't notice a lick of difference!"
Now you're gettin' it...
bluebottle wrote:ok, i read the latest issue of ASM, finishing out the first BND arc.
i have to admit, Slott's writing is fantastic and I love McNiven's artwork... it DOES feel like classic spidey again...
damnit.
DAMNIT.
those bastards.
they could have still done this without the retcon...
but i'm in... make mine marvel.
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