The Zone's 2008 Movie Journal

[Lord Voldemoo]

damn, I knew I shoulda reserved the top 50 spots or so and leased them out...

[instant_karma]

damn, I knew I shoulda reserved the top 50 spots or so and leased them out...

Well, now I believe that you really are a lawyer...

[junesquad]

Red - Cinema Movie
Orange - Theatre
White - DVD, Rental, TV, etc...
*Italics of any color indicates first viewing of that particular title

January:
1. The Family Man (8/10)
2. Hairspray (9/10)
3. *The Terminal (4/10) - BOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGGG
4. The First Wives Club (8/10)
5. Overboard (8/10)
6. *Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) (8/10) My Review - The music of Sweeney Todd gets a 10/10
7. *Wicked - The Broadway Musical (10/10) - Not a movie, but it deserved to be noted. My Review
8. Sin City (9/10)
9. Mean Girls (7/10)
10. The Stepford Wives (7/10)
11. Chicago (9.5/10)
12. Annie (1982) (8/10)
13. The Parent Trap (1961) (8/10)
14. Twister (9/10)
15. *Dumb and Dumber (4/10) - I absolutely HATE stupid-humor movies.
16. *P.S. I Love You (8.5/10) My Review
17. *Van Helsing (6/10)
18. *Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) (5/10)
19. *The Pink Panther (2006) (4/10)
20. She's the Man (7/10)
21. The Rich Man's Wife (6/10) - A little bit better than the average Halle Berry movie.
22. Fear (8/10) - I am a helpless sucker when it comes to William Petersen.
23. *Fun With Dick and Jane (8/10) - I'm going to be indicted, Jane!
24. That Thing You Do! (7/10)
25. Miss Congeniality (8/10)
26. Miss Congeniality 2 (6/10)
27. The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (9.5/10)
28. Elektra (6/10) - I know a lot of people hate this movie, but I love Jennifer Garner and Elektra... I love it.
29. Coyote Ugly (8/10) - Baby you're the right kinda wrong!
30. Pretty Woman (9/10) - I will always love this movie... always.
31. *Wild Hogs (7/10) - Another funny movie from Tim Allen.
32. 28 Days (9/10) - I absolutely love this movie.
33. The Chipmunk Adventure (8/10)
34. Double Double Toil and Trouble (6/10)
35. Kiss the Girls (8/10)
36. Abandon (6/10)
37: The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood (9.5/10)

February:
38. Shrek (8/10)
39. Shrek 2 (8/10)
** Dexter Season 1 (9.5/10) - ABSOLUTELY AMAZING
40. Hudson Hawk (7/10)
41. The Devil Wears Prada (7/10)
42. *Shrek 3 (7/10) - Please stop making Shrek movies... they're getting old.
43. Twisted (6/10)
44. Striking Distance (7/10)
45. *Juno (9/10) My Review
46. Rent (9.5/10)
** Dexter Season 2 (9.5/10) - ABSOLUTELY AMAZING


March:
47. *Bridge to Terabithia (7/10) - Good story, beautifully shot, didn't like the ending so much.
48. *The Spiderwick Chronicles (8/10) - Truly enjoyable and intense movie. I really wasn't expecting to hop on a fast-filled ride that didn't stop until the very last frame. I couldn't believe I had actually sit through an hour and a half film.
49. What Women Want (7/10)
50. *Vantage Point (6/10) - Average film... kinda predictable... another unbelievable car chase scene... Wish I would have waited for the DVD at the $5.50 bin.
51. *Rent (10/10) - The Broadway show, not the movie. Again, it deserved to be noted. I'm sure I'll post about it soon.
52. *The Dead Girl (7/10) - Bad Ending
53. *Captured (4/10) - Whoever wrote the movie description for this movie needs a new job.
54. *Fool's Gold (7/10) - How To Loose A Guy in 10 Days 2.
55. The Prince of Egypt (9.5/10) - Truly amazing cast and direction... even for an animated film. Love it.
** CSI: The Complete 7th Season (9.5/10) - I loved the GSR & The Miniature Killer.
56. *Because I Said So (6/10) - Average... Entertaining...
57. *Enchanted (8/10) - I loved Disney poking fun at themselves. Thanks for putting Idina Menzel in the movie.
58. *Rendition (8/10) - A bit slow... a great one-time watch.
59. Blast From The Past (7/10) - An old favorite.
60. Legally Blonde (9/10) - How can you not love Reese Witherspoon? She's so talented.
61. She's the Man (7/10)
62. 28 Days (9/10) - I still absolutely love this movie.

April:
63. *Atonement (5/10) - Wonderful acting. Long, drawn out scenes. Left me begging for the end. I literally advanced the frames to get through some parts of the movie.
64. *Hitman (6/10) - Average, but enjoyable.
65. Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) (8/10)
66. *Nancy Drew (6/10) - Cool for little ones. I think the hospital kids will enjoy it. I liked seeing Bruce Willis' cameo.
67. Evan Almighty (9/10) - Way better than Bruce Almighty. I laughed my ass off.
68. *Enchanted (8/10) - Funny, sweet and enjoyable to see Disney taking a poke at themselves.
69. Minority Report (9/10) - It's Tom Cruise, but I can't help but love it.
70. Darkness Falls (8/10) - Love the integration of psychology into the horror film, but it's not that scary... THANK GOD! I really enjoyed the segment about Matilda Dixon on the DVD extras.
71. Batman Begins (9.5/10) - Best Batman Film Ever!!!! Can't wait for the second installment.
72. Superman Returns (7.5/10) - Could have been better. Wish Tom Welling would have been involved, but I understand why he wasn't.
73. 10 Things I Hate About You (7/10) - I love Julia Stiles. Funny movie.
74. The Parent Trap (1961) (8/10)
75. *Dan in Real Life (9/10) - Pretty damned good. Movie felt like it could actually happen in today's society. I loved it. It's very honest.
76. *The Brave One (6/10) - It was okay. Predictable and drawn out, but Jodi Foster helped me like the movie more than I should...
77. *Alvin and the Chipmunks (7/10) - I was kinda expecting less, but I still wasn't really impressed. However, I did enjoy it and thought it was a cute kid's movie with a really valuable lesson.
78. *Ghost Rider (4/10) - Everyone told me how great this movie is. So, without a drop of initial interest, I watched it and I really shouldn't have.
79. *Becoming Jane (6/10)

May:
80. *Follow The Stars Home (10/10)
81. *Iron Man (9/10) - I really loved it.
82. Practical Magic (6/10)
83. Robin Hood: Men in Tights (7/10)
84, *The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (9/10) - Great movie, beautiful soundtrack.
85. Indiana Jones: The Raiders of the Lost Ark (7/10)
86. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (8/10)
87. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (7/10)
88. *Indian Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (7/10) - Decent movie... nothing really amazing, but I enjoyed it.
89. Jurassic Park (8/10)
90. Jurassic Park: The Lost World (8/10)
91. Jurassic Park III (8/10)
92. Hide and Seek (8/10)
93. K-Pax (9/10)
94. Overboard (8/10)

June:
95. Final Destination II (6/10)
96. Unbreakable (8/10) - I have to admit I am a sucker for an M. Night movie. This one is a bit slow, though.
96. Beyond the Sea (9/10) - Great acting. Great singing. Truly enjoyable film.
96. Pride & Prejudice (2005) - Watching now... will update later.

[Chilli]

My one (first page) updated with Casino review.

[CeeBeeUK]

Recording Cinema trips
And try to record DVD/Rental/On demand/TV too.
Ratings out of 5

January

• 1st
  Enchanted (***) Sweet film that had little to no appeal for me.
• 3rd
  Harry Potter 5 (****)
• 5th
  Superman 2000 cut (***) This cut (from the 13 disc tin) of the film had a terrible print that severely detracted from the film. The additional scenes were mostly interesting.
• 6th
  Superman II - Donner cut (****) This was interesting, not all of the Donner choices were good, or improvements, over Lesters' but I feel it would have made a better film in the original format. The turning back time worked better as a personal event with the death of Lois. But the 'magic' kiss sucked too!
  Superman III (**)It's Superman 3 . Also for a 13 tin 'complete' box set, there were a lot of scenes missing from the cut I remember. I assume the UK TV cut put all of the deleted scenes on this disc back in at some time, but the 'sex' scene wasn't even included with the other deleted ones
• 7th
  Superman IV (zero)It's Superman 4 FFS. The plot makes no sense, the script makes no sense. People, if you think heroes has plot holes, watch this pile of steaming excrement. It'll make Heroes look like the best depiction of superheros ever! You'll never complain again.
• 8th
  I am Legend(**) As an event movie, this works. As an adaption of the source(zero), it bites. There were so many plot points that were almost picked up on from the story, the lead vampire, the crushing loneliness, but they were abandoned almost as soon as they were touched upon. And why take the title of the book if you don't intend to use the plot point that accompanies it? Plus, I didn't like the ending!
  Superman Returns (***) After Superman 4 I nearly gave this 5 stars! It's nice seeing this so close to Supes 1 & 2, as you can really see where singer got his inspiration (stealing lines, mostly ), yet you can also see what he tried to change by the end. Superman still can't deal with his duality but now he has a link to something that will shift his focus. It's a shame that Singer looks like he's off the sequel as I am sure he would have expanded this, much to a lot of peoples disgust!
• 12th
  Spiderman 3(***) I think this surprised me as my expectations had been lowered so much by months of heckling. Not being a fanatical comic reader, and only having a passing recollection of the Venom of the animated series, this seemed in a very similar vein to the first two.
• 24th
  Fight club(***) It's been a while since I saw this and I know it has generated a lot of debate elsewhere. So lets just leave it at... I liked it... but not as much as the book!
• 25th
  Poltergeist 25th Anniversary edition(****) I had fond memories of this film as a genuinely creepy film. I wasn't disappointed. There seemed to be a few new scenes, or maybe I only ever saw the TV version (:?), and this has held up quite well. JoBeth Williams is smokin' as the mom, why would the creepy builders hit on the daughter. The special effects, while dated, still stayed on the right side of cheesy and, as ever, I was amazed at how good the child actors were. UK child actors always... seem... to... be... reading... their... lines.
• 27th
  Die Hard 4.0 (Harder cut)(***) Better than Die Hard 3, not as good as 1 and possibly 2. The swearing being put back in makes it a much better Die Hard film, the F35 remaining in makes it fucking stupid!

February

• 2nd
  Cloverfield(***)UK Zoner meet-up - Review to follow - if I ever write it
• 9th
  Shoot 'em up(****) - This film rocks out, with it's... well you know. It doesn't pretend to be be anything other than it is, a fun romp with a shit load of guns and a damn stupid premise. How people can not like this I don't know. No underlying metaphors, no convoluted reasons why that stupid jump through a window wouldn't hurt him, just balls out action.
• 10th
  Disturbia (***) If Rear Window mated with The 'Burbs, this would be the result. An OK film, with some nice twists, and some awfully predictable ones!
• 24th
  50 First Dates (****) Listed by me in the guilty pleasures thread. This film reminded me just how cute Drew Barrymore is, let Adam Sandler be funny without being gross (mostly) and avoided the cliché Hollywood happy ending. The only downside is Rob Schneider, but there is no perfect film Also one of the few films that can make me misty eyed, mainly at her family.

March

• 8th
  Superbad (***1/2) After so many moths of hype, I don't think this could live up to it. I think this may be a grower, while I was watching it, I found myself chuckling a few times, but generally the humour didn't seem to work for me. Afterwards though, the jokes kept recurring to me and they seemed a lot funnier. Maybe in a few months a repeat viewing will convince me of it's greatness. "Shit, it's the cops!"
• 15th
  The Aristocats (**) Fell asleep watching this. I have never been a fan of Disney (the corporation) and the animation style in this just didn't work for me. I may be too old for this shit...
• 21st
  Malice (****) A reasonable thriller (a re-viewing, so I knew most of the plot twists), it reminded me why I used to fancy Nicole Kidman! Minus 1 star for an early Gwyneth Paltrow appearance, plus one for her being a grisly corpse in her next scene!
• 22nd
  X Men 2(***) I prefer this to X Men 1, not being a massive comics fan, this one seemed to enjoy telling its story, more than explaining who everyone is...
• 24th
  Lethal Weapon (****) This is the directors cut from the box set, some interesting additions, a school sniper(!), to show how suicidal Riggs is at the start of the film. A weak ending with a whole crowd of cops watching Riggs beat Mr Joshua to a pulp in the rain (hydrant). Mutters of, "Homo-erotic much?", from my wife

April

• 12th
  The Host (****) Interesting film! Open air monster rampage in the first 20 minutes, strangely compelling comedic family breakdown at a funeral, slightly over long in the middle section and an surprise in the ending that I wasn't expecting at all.
  The anti-american aspects were slightly ham-fisted but I didn't think it was too much!
  20th
  In Bruges (****) Fantastic. Dark Humour, some excellent gore, irreverent jokes and a midg.. *cough* dwarf, on ketamine! Colin Farrell turned in a worthwhile performance (almost managed to wipe Bullseye from my mind) and Brendan Gleeson and Ralph Fiennes were good as always. The bit part characters were good too, the hotel owner and the cocaine dealing petty thief to pick out two!
  28th
  National Treasure(**) I remembered this as a fun popcorn flick. It isn't, plot holes, dodgy plot devices... Urgh.

May

• 17th
  Transformers (***) Big dumb Michael Bay film with Giant robots beating the crap out of each other.
  
• 23rd
  Lethal Weapon 2 (****) Big, loud and stupid. It also made me remember why I liked Patsy Kensit back in the day! Plus, the collapse of the house made me appreciate how much better physical effects are than CGI.
• 24th
  Indiana Jones KotKC(***) Too... many... thoughts... Mustn't type stream of conciousness. Reviewed here.
  The Golden Compass (**) It's been a while since I read the books but it seemed to cover the bases. It just felt shallow whereas I seem to remember the books having more depth. The story seemed to stumble rather than flow... Now you are on a boat... Now we are in Iceland... Now the 'war' the witches will fight is a skirmish against 40 soldiers And the ending sucks, as they obviously expected a sequel, and that ain't looking likely.
• 26th
  Charlie Wilson's War (****) This took me by surprise, I wasn't expecting something with so many zingy one-liners, tied to a, fairly depressing, story about how humankind sucks. Wasn't surprised when I saw the Sorkin credit!
• 27th
  Breakfast at Tiffany's (*****) I had never seen this film and had little to no knowledge of it. Prior to visiting New York next week, my wife and I sat down to watch this. I was taken aback at how quick older films move. No need to spend 30 minutes setting up their backstory. Within minutes you know that Holly is a troubled, flighty young lady and that Fred, sorry Paul(!), is a kept man with writers block.
  I was shocked to see Hannibal in the starring role, I’ve only ever seen him acting much later in life, and yes other things than the A-Team , and was impressed with his work. The film itself flutters along, telling the story or two troubled people who carom off each other while one is (or tries to be) blithely unaware of the other. It gets bonus points for the amount of cat abuse that goes on*. Surely the ASPCA wouldn’t let them throw cats at doors until they stick(!) nowadays? * My ginger tom has been annoying me all evening so I kept pointing out what could happen to him!
• 29th
  Planet of the Apes (68) (****) Some thoughts on the DVD as I go along…
  
  Oooh, the menus give away the ending
  
  Physical effects FTW! They actually built a giant spaceship and sank it in a lake! Take that CGI!
  
  The ape make up still looks great, even if the lips don’t always match.
  
  Take your filthy paws off me, you damn dirty ape! Woohoo!!
  
  Pity Stewart, they took one woman and three men to restart the human race. She goan be sore!
  
  The score sometimes seems completely at odds with the action
  
  A talking doll? that's the basis of your hypothesis? okaaaay
  
  God damn you! God damn you all to hell!
  
  The film is a nice social study, it makes you look at how we treat animals and think, "Meh, they can't talk!"

June[list][*]28th
Wanted (****) I've not read the GN, but this was crazy batshit insane . The editing of the film was brilliant, the fast moving scenes made sense, despite fast cuts you always knew what was going on and where the major players were in a scene. Some really nice set pieces, the final storming was good. One nice point; during the final attack the letters from the sign over the gate spell FATE as the rats crawl over them. One point; colleague appears and tells you that the boss has been making up targets for his own gain. Boss then says your names came up, kill yourselves. Or like, he made them up too? Why not take the time to check?

[stereosforgeeks]

I added ratings to my list.

[Seppuku]

Eagle VS Shark - 1.2/10

Damn, that's cold!

[Nordling]

I've edited my list as well. I've seen more pictures this year already than I anticipated.

[TonyWilson]

Eagle VS Shark - 1.2/10

Damn, that's cold!

No more than it deserved and it only scored that highly because of the soundtrack.

[Seppuku]

Eagle VS Shark - 1.2/10

Damn, that's cold!

No more than it deserved and it only scored that highly because of the soundtrack.

It did at times seem like a wilfully fey, independent movie spoof. And it often came across like Napoleon Dynamite but with the timing all off. Still, I'd generally agree with tapehead when he wrote this:

Both the leads are probably close to thirty but playing eternal teenagers, troubled and kind of damaged and never quite getting beyond dorky adolescence. And it's in this aspect that you will take or leave the story - you'll either go with this artifice or not. I did, and after seeing it tonight, I'd say that Eagle Vs.Shark is a minor gem, and a possible antidote to the overkill of the big blockbusters of recent months.

I don't know if I'd call it a minor gem, but there were enough sweet moments to justify watching it (Lily taking Jarrod's wheelchair-bound dad for a walk). I guess I can understand how it could really piss someone off though, especially scenes like that stop-motion sleeping bag caterpillar crawl and the final fight played out in agonisingly slow motion.

I've gotta say, the girl who plays Lily, Loren Horsley, is nothing short of stunning! Maybe not to everyone's taste, but that just means I've got better odds of making her mine!

[Flumm]

1: I'm genuinely glad you decided to put ratings up, SFG. Not only do I enjoy your musky aroma, but the opinions of other Zoners gives me sustanance where whence I could fine none. So thanks you kindly!

However:

My spot:

Hua Jai Tor Ra Nong (The Adventure Of Iron Pussy) - 4.0

2: ...am I to assume that it's best just to take it for granted that The Adventures of Iron Pussy shall be best lived by existing only as an eye-roll worthy smirk in your Movie Journal?


And thirdly, am I the only who still finds reading other people's Journals strangely entertaining? It may be all so 2007, but when I go to amend mine, I can't help but glance to see who's watching whut, and whether is worth them doing so.


I suppose it's still the thing whether it provokes more film related discussion, or no. I'll say frankly that I typically feel uncomfortable in posting too much at once, or being the person to lead by bumpesque example in any great quantities, but it would be cool to have this thread be a catalyst for something, whether it's here or in other threads.

Film banter, heavy or light, is still one of my my very favourite things in the zone, to passively read, or to participate in.

Perhaps even people copying and pasting a " I gave it so and so in my journal" in the films respective threads and so on, could be worth the while if a few ripples of conversatin' bubble forth.

[tapehead]

Eagle VS Shark - 1.2/10

Damn, that's cold!

No more than it deserved and it only scored that highly because of the soundtrack.

It did at times seem like a wilfully fey, independent movie spoof. And it often came across like Napoleon Dynamite but with the timing all off. Still, I'd generally agree with tapehead when he wrote this:

Both the leads are probably close to thirty but playing eternal teenagers, troubled and kind of damaged and never quite getting beyond dorky adolescence. And it's in this aspect that you will take or leave the story - you'll either go with this artifice or not. I did, and after seeing it tonight, I'd say that Eagle Vs.Shark is a minor gem, and a possible antidote to the overkill of the big blockbusters of recent months.

I don't know if I'd call it a minor gem, but there were enough sweet moments to justify watching it (Lily taking Jarrod's wheelchair-bound dad for a walk). I guess I can understand how it could really piss someone off though, especially scenes like that stop-motion sleeping bag caterpillar crawl and the final fight played out in agonisingly slow motion.

I've gotta say, the girl who plays Lily, Loren Horsley, is nothing short of stunning! Maybe not to everyone's taste, but that just means I've got better odds of making her mine!

I've got some bad news for you Sepp - The director, Taika Cohen - who also directed quite a bit of the HBO 'Flight of the Conchords' and She are apparently practically man and wife. She is beautiful though, a little Cate Blanchett in that her face can go from stark to captivating depending on the light and her expression. I'll admit the movie is very 'take it or leave it' too, and suffers badly when compared to 'Napoleon Dynamite' and 'The Science of Sleep' (or the Australian flick, 'Love Serenade', which I mentioned in that review). Kiwi humour is an acquired taste as well. I think it helps to be in a slightly wistful and whimsical mood for this one, but it's not without it's charms...

[Bob Samonkey]

Man. I feel bad with the little ammount I have watched. Yous guys are so much faster then me...

[doglips]

OK, so here is my spot, better late than never.


300 - 3/10
Le Vie En Rose - 10/10
5x2 - 9/10
A Very Long Engagement - 8/10
Curse of the Golden Flower - 6/10
Time to Leave - 9/10
Eagle vs Shark - 8/10
Alien vs Predator 2 - Haha, amazingly stupid.
The Bourne Supremacy - 7/10
The Bourne Ultimatum - 7/10
Venus - 8/10
Juno - 9/10
POTC at Worlds End- 2/10
Order of the Phoenix - 5/10
There Will Be Blood - 10/10
Paris Je Taime - 8/10
Control - 9/10
Me and You and Everyone We Know - 10/10
Code Unknown - 9/10
Sherrybaby - 8/10
Elizabeth - The Golden Age 5/10
For Your Consideration - 7/10
The Counterfeiters - 9/10
The Edukators - 9/10
Capote - 8/10
Rocket Science - 9/10
The Darjeeling Limited - 7/10
Fantastic Four - 1/10
FF2 - 1/10
Eastern Promises - 9/10
Iron Man - 6/10
Cloverfield - 3/10
Assassination of Jesse James - 8/10
Lust/Caution - 5/10
This Is England - 8/10
Koyaanisqatsi - 8/10
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 5/10
No Country for Old Men - 7/10
Sweeney Todd - The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - 8/10
The Kite Runner - 9/10
The Savages - 9/10
Paranoid Park - 6/10
Wanted - 2/10
Tales from Earthsea - 6/10
Wall-E - 6/10
The Dark Night - 5/10
Michael Clayton - 8/10
Hellboy 2 - 7/10
Once - 4/10
Les Chansons D'Amour - 7/10
The Water Horse - Legend of the Deep - 7/10
Margot at the Wedding - 8/10
Punch-Drunk Love - 9/10
4 Months, 3 weeks And 2 Days - 9/10
Manufactured Landscapes - 9/10
Into the Wild - 10/10
The Flower of my Secret - 8/10
Thankyou for Smoking - 7/10
Heartbeat Detector -
In Bruges -
Persepolis -
Priceless -
Son of Rambow -
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly -

[TonyWilson]

OK, so here is my spot, better late than never.

January.

300 - 3/10
Le Vie En Rose - 9/10
5x2 -

HUZZAH!!!
Had you seen it before, dog?

[doglips]

No, it was like a 14 year olds wet dream. I give it three out of generosity to some of the shot selection.

[TonyWilson]

No, it was like a 14 year olds wet dream. I give it three out of generosity to some of the shot selection.

BWAHAHAHAHA Indeed. Indeed.
I think I called it a neo-con fever dream, myself.
And this is from the director now signed on to Watchmen

[stereosforgeeks]

What did you think of 5x2 DL?

[doglips]

I've got it to watch on Wednesday. Ozon is my Wife's fave director and we missed it at the cinema.

[doglips]

No, it was like a 14 year olds wet dream. I give it three out of generosity to some of the shot selection.

BWAHAHAHAHA Indeed. Indeed.
I think I called it a neo-con fever dream, myself.
And this is from the director now signed on to Watchmen

Mmmm, indeed. Watchmen should look good and the costumes will probs be great but i fear for the story and dialogue. Some good cast tho, who knows.

[doglips]

What did you think of 5x2 DL?

What did you think of Electroma? Missed your thoughts ( if you typed any out...)

[stereosforgeeks]

What did you think of 5x2 DL?

What did you think of Electroma? Missed your thoughts ( if you typed any out...)

Never typed anything out on it, but I really thought it was beautiffully strange and hypnotic. There are some amazing sequences in the film, including the ending. I was amazed by the amount of symbolism and thought went into the film becuase it was defintiely was not what I expected. In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.


I liked 5x2, byu the way and thought it was a really interesting way to frame a relationship. I had recently gone through a break-up at that point so it really hit close to home.

[Keepcoolbutcare]

In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.

with the amount of pop-culture you voraciously consume, I'm stumped for reasons as well...

[stereosforgeeks]

In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.

with the amount of pop-culture you voraciously consume, I'm stumped for reasons as well...

I dont know if I should be offended by that remark or not

[doglips]

What did you think of 5x2 DL?

What did you think of Electroma? Missed your thoughts ( if you typed any out...)

Never typed anything out on it, but I really thought it was beautiffully strange and hypnotic. There are some amazing sequences in the film, including the ending. I was amazed by the amount of symbolism and thought went into the film becuase it was defintiely was not what I expected. In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.


I liked 5x2, byu the way and thought it was a really interesting way to frame a relationship. I had recently gone through a break-up at that point so it really hit close to home.

Thanks for the Electroma thoughts. Great film, great director - I hope Thomas has some more up his sleeve for us at some point. Has any other zoner witnessed this gem?

[doglips]

In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.

with the amount of pop-culture you voraciously consume, I'm stumped for reasons as well...

I dont know if I should be offended by that remark or not

Haha, I was going to attempt some kind of human to robot download capacity quip but couldn't quite do it. Trust KC to bring the levity.

[stereosforgeeks]

What did you think of 5x2 DL?

What did you think of Electroma? Missed your thoughts ( if you typed any out...)

Never typed anything out on it, but I really thought it was beautiffully strange and hypnotic. There are some amazing sequences in the film, including the ending. I was amazed by the amount of symbolism and thought went into the film becuase it was defintiely was not what I expected. In the end I had trouble coming up with reasons why I was not a robot.


I liked 5x2, byu the way and thought it was a really interesting way to frame a relationship. I had recently gone through a break-up at that point so it really hit close to home.

Thanks for the Electroma thoughts. Great film, great director - I hope Thomas has some more up his sleeve for us at some point. Has any other zoner witnessed this gem?

I really hope so too! He really really impressed me. I expected more of a music video type thing like Interstela 5555 and that was not Electroma at all. I hadn't heard any real thoughts on the film when I had seen it either.

[Pacino86845]

B1tches be warned, what do you think if I deleted a bunch of non-journal posts to have everyone grouped together a bit better? Are you guys ok with this? Keepcool, it means you would probably lose your top of page 2 spot if I delete first page posts (among which are your own posts). Do I hear a yay or a nay?

[Chilli]

Updated with SOAP review. Man, I love that crappy film.

[CeeBeeUK]

B1tches be warned, what do you think if I deleted a bunch of non-journal posts to have everyone grouped together a bit better? Are you guys ok with this? Keepcool, it means you would probably lose your top of page 2 spot if I delete first page posts (among which are your own posts). Do I hear a yay or a nay?

Deleting bad! How about a Movie Journal 2008 discussion thread?

That way, the journals remain unsullied and people can still talk about them, if the chat doesn't come under the general movie review threads

[Pacino86845]

Well this wouldn't be a regular thing, it's just that some discussion had already started before "everyone" managed to reserve a spot in the thread. The way I see it is that the first page or two would contain the journals themselves for each person, and that consequent pages would contain discussion as the year goes on.

[CeeBeeUK]

I just meant that deleting the discussion is bad, how about moving it to another thread and then back to here, would it be added at the end?

Edit: I see what you mean and agree, a block of journals, followed by comments, is best.

Edit 2: No, sorry, I forgot that you can't move posts only topics. CB out!

[Nordling]

I think that would be a good idea, actually. A 2008 Movie Journal Discussion Thread to clean out the clutter in here.

[ThisIsTheGirl]

Do I hear a yay or a nay?

Definite "yay" from me - it's still fairly early into this thread's life, so I think we can do it now without it hurting anyone too bad. I feel bad for KCBC though - looks like that patch of land you bought used to be an Indian burial ground!

Or we could go with a totally new thread for discussions, but that might be overkill. Maybe we could have a cut-off point for people to book their journal spots in this thread, and any posts after that point could be solely for discussion.

[Flumm]

No, it was like a 14 year olds wet dream. I give it three out of generosity to some of the shot selection.

Good to see you got your computer woes fixed up, dog.


And it would seem like you had the same reaction to 300 as I to Transformers...



Why do we do it to ourselves?


Oh yeah, something about the never ending quest for artistic awsome, and the self-enforced duties of the culture-geek to be unbiased in input, noble of virtue, and content against the darkness by the hope that, in this case, cinema at it's purest, can come from anywhere, any persons, or any pla.. blah .. blah... bleurgh.

Still craptastic films, though.

B1tches be warned, what do you think if I deleted a bunch of non-journal posts to have everyone grouped together a bit better? Are you guys ok with this? Keepcool, it means you would probably lose your top of page 2 spot if I delete first page posts (among which are your own posts). Do I hear a yay or a nay?

Yeah, I'm not directly affected, so my opinion is only ancillary, but I understand why it would be better to have it done, and don't have a problem with it, if anyone else doesn't.

Yay, I say.

In fact, if you be super-generous and somewhere in the process could magic me up a grey post, instead of a black one, that would be beacoup something-cool of you.

Not a priority, though, so don't go out your way or nothin' or whatever or nothin'.

[Flumm]

Hmm, I think the idea of a seperate thread is neither here nor there, really.

They're essentially the same thing, just with an invisable cut-off point. Might have made more practical sense if we were talking about it before we had already gotten underway. It wouldn't serve as to any great degree at this juncture, not that I can tell...

If anything, it would likely make the proccess of discussing things a little more cumbersome than it needs to be, what with copying and pasting in one thread, and posting in another...

[Pacino86845]

Or we could go with a totally new thread for discussions, but that might be overkill.

I agree 100%

Maybe we could have a cut-off point for people to book their journal spots in this thread, and any posts after that point could be solely for discussion.

That's exactly what I was thinking, apologies for any ambiguities in my explanation.

[ThisIsTheGirl]

Cool, let's stick with this thread then. Next year we should make it clear that you should only post your journal in the thread for the first couple of weeks.

I'm sure we went through all of this with the previous journal so I didn't think we'd have the same problem again this time round - but for the record, I think we should also have a rule that if you neglect to update your list within, say, 3 months, it gets deleted. Maybe that's a bit militant but there were a helluva lot of people in the last thread who gave up after about a month. It's fair enough if you can't find the time to keep your list updated, but I reckon we should keep this thread for the folks who can - thoughts?.

[Ribbons]

I'm sure we went through all of this with the previous journal so I didn't think we'd have the same problem again this time round - but for the record, I think we should also have a rule that if you neglect to update your list within, say, 3 months, it gets deleted. Maybe that's a bit militant but there were a helluva lot of people in the last thread who gave up after about a month. It's fair enough if you can't find the time to keep your list updated, but I reckon we should keep this thread for the folks who can - thoughts?.

I don't know, because if you do that, you eliminate the possibility of anyone deciding to start maintaining their journal, like, mid-year or so, which means they'd have to wait until 2009 if they wanted to do another one. It can be seen as excess clutter from a certain point of view, which maybe makes the thread slightly harder to navigate, but I don't know if it's so detrimental that it justifies being cleared away.

(Of course I only say this because I have the second post in the thread )

[ThisIsTheGirl]

I get what you're saying - but it wouldn't neccessarily affect you - unless you're planning on not adding anything to your journal for three months or more! It's not like anything's decided yet, but just check out the first two pages of the old one and see what I mean. Interspersed amongst all the people who added movies every single month, are several people who just did January and February and never posted again.

[thomasgaffney]

I'm sure we went through all of this with the previous journal so I didn't think we'd have the same problem again this time round - but for the record, I think we should also have a rule that if you neglect to update your list within, say, 3 months, it gets deleted. Maybe that's a bit militant but there were a helluva lot of people in the last thread who gave up after about a month. It's fair enough if you can't find the time to keep your list updated, but I reckon we should keep this thread for the folks who can - thoughts?.

check out the first two pages of the old one and see what I mean. Interspersed amongst all the people who added movies every single month, are several people who just did January and February and never posted again.

So you're going to what? Fault people for making an attempt? And if life happens to interfere with their ability to watch and review movies, they're going to be wiped out with no trace that they ever existed? What if they have some kick-ass review of a little-seen movie in their two month window? You're just going to erase all that? What if they update their list for Jan and Feb, can't for the next 5 months, but come back in August to take their journal up again only to find it all deleted? Maybe they'll never want to participate again...

[stereosforgeeks]

I don't think it really matters where people are. If they are going to update they will. I was on the third page last year and I made consistent updates.

The first couple pages would have been nice to be purely journal stuff, but it is what it is at this point.

[Seppuku]

Feel free to delete this post:

thanks Sepp, for the rectification. Rutger is our pride and joy. As to the language distinction: Dutch is when it sounds like gob-spitting.

It's no wonder I always feel ill whenever I get back from Amsterdam!


Although chances are that's got more to do with all the prostitutes I go through than anything else...











Damn, did I just mix up the large and small text again?

Feel free to delete ^ post and any others that I happened to have made on the front page. Though I wouldn't recommend deleting anyone else's without first consulting them. It can leave a bad taste in the mouth knowing that everything you write won't necessarily be recorded for posterity. Hell, if you all were Thomas Gaffneys, then chances are we'd all turn into Junesquad (no offense, Junesquad).


Also, deleting journals that haven't been kept up just reeks of itchy mod fingers. Do you really imagine that many more people starting their journals now that the whole thing's got underway?

Anyway, since I threw my goddamn laptop into the goddamn sea, I've only been able to finagle 10 minutes at a time online, so I'll see how thing's panned out in a couple days time.

[Pacino86845]

I took care of the deleting in the 2007 journal, much as I am proposing now, and as you can see I left people's journals alone even though they may not have updated. Except Confused Pete. I totally deleted his ass.

[Ribbons]

I took care of the deleting in the 2007 journal, much as I am proposing now, and as you can see I left people's journals alone even though they may not have updated. Except Confused Pete. I totally deleted his ass.

27?

[ThisIsTheGirl]

So you're going to what? Fault people for making an attempt? And if life happens to interfere with their ability to watch and review movies, they're going to be wiped out with no trace that they ever existed? What if they have some kick-ass review of a little-seen movie in their two month window? You're just going to erase all that? What if they update their list for Jan and Feb, can't for the next 5 months, but come back in August to take their journal up again only to find it all deleted? Maybe they'll never want to participate again...

LOL - OK, there's a few massive misconceptions in that post, I'll walk you through them.....

Firstly, any "kick ass" reviews should be put up in a review thread, then linked to in the journals, so deleting a journal wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to the existence of the review. Secondly, why does deletion have to be synonymous with "faulting people for making an attempt"? When we delete a duped thread, we're not "faulting" anybody, we are just getting rid of redundant stuff - why would the journal issue be any different? The issue here is deleting redundant mattter from this thread - I think we've already established that we ARE going to delete some of the non-journal posts in the early stages of this thread, I'm just trying to establish how far we go with that.

It's called "discussion" - nobody has had anything deleted yet, until we reach a consensus. (and I hasten to add, if this had been done in the beginning, we wouldn't be in this boat). I've made a suggestion and said why I made it, now anybody is free to state what they think might be wrong with that suggestion, which is what you've done (albeit in a slightly ALF way )

Thirdly, if somebody wrote a bit in their journal for a month or two, then left the Zone for 6 months, I'd imagine they had bigger stuff to worry about in their lives than those few journal entries they managed to make before they left - but hey, maybe that's just me and the whole time they're away, they are constantly thinking "DAMN I'm seriously falling behind with my journal here" - who knows? Not I, nor do I care.

If most people are against the idea, then it won't happen. Despite how it may sometimes appear, this place is run a helluva lot more democratically than a lot of boards - so let's trust in The Zone and gently untwist our knickers.....

[TonyWilson]

Well I've already made a much better start than I did lat year. But I say go for it when it comes ot deleting non-journal posts, it's not like anything important is really eing said. If we allow random movie discussion in this thread to go on then it just becomes another random movie discussion thread with a list on the fron page and we have a random movie review thread already.
Maybe a PM to people who aren't keeping up their journal, asking them if they want to keep up with it but have just been busy or whether they just aren't bothered anymore, would be a compromise?

[godzillasushi]

Well after having that other journal all year it got pretty annoying to go through half a page of dead journals before I even got to mine...some people reserved a spot and never used it. But still managed to put an explanation in for their scoring system.

Just saying...

[Pacino86845]

Well I've already made a much better start than I did lat year. But I say go for it when it comes ot deleting non-journal posts, it's not like anything important is really eing said. If we allow random movie discussion in this thread to go on then it just becomes another random movie discussion thread with a list on the fron page and we have a random movie review thread already.

The deletions would only happen on the first page and part of the second page. The point is simply that within the thread, people's journals/lists are all together on the first page or two, and the following pages of the thread would contain discussion. Y'all can have a peek at the 2007 journal and notice how everyone's journals are all together on the first two pages (more or less). Initially there were about a dozen posts in between some of the journal entries which made it really sucky for those who only managed to reserve a spot later on. Besides Keepcool getting pissed that he loses his top-of-page-2 spot, I don't see why someone would have a problem with this part. (or I might be missing something?)

As for non-updating, I think if someone has a spot and hasn't used it after a couple of months, it should be deleted. If someone started using it and dropped it after a few months, it should stay. This part is just my 2 cents and of course is open for discussion.

[TonyWilson]

Ah, that makes sense, Pacino.