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Postby DennisMM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:14 pm

Tamoh Penikett's in it? I'd no idea. Hoorah!

The entire project still smells to me like Whedon has subliminal memories of The Pretender and All My Sins Remembered.
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Postby silentbobafett on Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:48 pm

I just want to know why Whedon's gone back to Fox after being so badly ass fucked by them with the incredible Firefly (whose fanbase alone surely proves Fox are a bunch of untrustowrthy muppets!)
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:58 pm

My guess is Fox is the network that offered the best deal. You're only as good as your last project, after all, and Serenity didn't even gross 40 million worldwide. He may have some friendly connections at Fox, even though he was screwed over generally on Firefly.
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Postby MacCready on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:00 pm

silentbobafett wrote:I just want to know why Whedon's gone back to Fox after being so badly ass fucked by them with the incredible Firefly (whose fanbase alone surely proves Fox are a bunch of untrustowrthy muppets!)


I had the same question. If I were Whedon, I would have been pedaling my wares on cable - anywhere but Fox.
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:06 pm

MacCready wrote:
silentbobafett wrote:I just want to know why Whedon's gone back to Fox after being so badly ass fucked by them with the incredible Firefly (whose fanbase alone surely proves Fox are a bunch of untrustowrthy muppets!)


I had the same question. If I were Whedon, I would have been pedaling my wares on cable - anywhere but Fox.


Whedon on HBO or Showtime *drools*
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:07 pm

Extra sex and violence! Galactica would have been great on premium cable, but then I'd have to subscribe.
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Postby MacCready on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:29 pm

Afloat in a sea of naked Boomers.........
Damn you cable.
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:33 pm

Just imagine the Tory/Baltar scene from last week if it had been on Showtime.
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:48 pm

DennisMM wrote:Just imagine the Tory/Baltar scene from last week if it had been on Showtime.


What about Baltar with six and D'Ana on the cylon ship.
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Postby MacCready on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:07 pm

My, we DO have ours dreams, don't we?
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Its OK.
These are good dreams.
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Postby DennisMM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:12 pm

I'm a Tory fan. And, yes, I have dreams.
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:03 pm

[quote="Hercules"]
Joss Whedon reports on his website that “Angelâ€
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Postby Vegeta on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Nice to see Amy Acker will be on Dollhouse... YEAH!
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Postby tapehead on Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:27 am

Great cast of mostly familiar actors coming together on this.
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Postby Vegeta on Thu May 15, 2008 2:17 pm

Some cast pics of Dollhouse are out online.
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Thu May 15, 2008 2:25 pm

Eliza's looking pretty good!

Isn't Amy Acker in this too??

edit: lol, nvm, i just scrolled up like 2 posts...
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Thu May 15, 2008 2:25 pm

It's going to air before 24 as well.
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Postby tfactor on Thu May 15, 2008 2:30 pm

... I just want to tell you both (whedon and eliza): good luck, we're all counting on you ...
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Postby so sorry on Thu May 15, 2008 3:09 pm

Did she get some "work" done to her face? she looks different (NOTE: still hot as hell).

That first picture with the cast: looks horrible. Whoever Photoshopped those shots together aught to be fired. Really really bad. And while i'm being nasty: who or what is that girl standing next to Eliza?



PS I'm looking forward to this show! Really, I am...
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Postby Lord Voldemoo on Thu May 15, 2008 3:12 pm

so sorry wrote:Did she get some "work" done to her face? she looks different (NOTE: still hot as hell).

That first picture with the cast: looks horrible. Whoever Photoshopped those shots together aught to be fired. Really really bad. And while i'm being nasty: who or what is that girl standing next to Eliza?



PS I'm looking forward to this show! Really, I am...


haha, i completely agree. Pretty horrible shot.
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Postby tapehead on Thu May 15, 2008 10:24 pm

You guys watch the trailer too?

"This is an awesome gig! This is cutting-edge science in a house full of hot chicks!'

So I'm interested, plus;

Olivia Williams...
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Postby anthonymous on Thu May 15, 2008 11:44 pm

The scene Herc linked to didn't make a lick of sense; what an odd selection to release.
whatever trevor.
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Postby Dee E. Goppstober on Thu May 15, 2008 11:51 pm

Yes, this is shaping up nicely.

It's got Tahmoh Penikett in it too, after all.

You know, the hero.
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Fri May 16, 2008 12:43 am

AWESOME TRAILER!!! Can this be on like umm now?

Could TPTB actually let this one survive and thrive?
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Postby Pacino86845 on Fri May 16, 2008 4:53 am

I never got into Joss Whedon's various works, Buffy and Firefly always looked lame to me... but that was decent. I'm still wondering where he wants to go with that concept, if it will be pushed to sort of Dick-ian levels, but for now I'm curious.
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Postby RogueScribner on Fri May 16, 2008 7:08 am

Buffy and Firefly looked lame to you??? :shock:

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Postby Peven on Fri May 16, 2008 7:19 am

RogueScribner wrote:Buffy and Firefly looked lame to you??? :shock:

I feel faint!!!


1/2 right Pacino, "Firefly" is actually ok......
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Postby Pacino86845 on Fri May 16, 2008 7:50 am

I've only seen one episode of Buffy and only the first nine minutes of Serenity... I'm just sayin', they didn't appeal to me when they were airing. I've heard enough positive things said about Firefly to give it a shot, but with nine seasons I'm too scared to get into Buffy...
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Postby so sorry on Fri May 16, 2008 8:05 am

Pacino86845 wrote:I never got into Joss Whedon's various works, Buffy and Firefly always looked lame to me... but that was decent. I'm still wondering where he wants to go with that concept, if it will be pushed to sort of Dick-ian levels, but for now I'm curious.


That's about as much praise as I can give it too (which, in reality, isn't really any 'praise' at all).

What will stop me from comparing this to Buffy meets Dark Angel? Am I wrong in already seeing the love triangle between Echo, the other assassin dude and the cop(?) trying to get to the bottom of the Dollhouse?

I really want to like this, but that (admittedly small) clip gave me nothing much to hope for.
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Postby Spifftacular SquirrelGirl on Sun May 18, 2008 4:25 am

Pacino86845 wrote:I've only seen one episode of Buffy and only the first nine minutes of Serenity... I'm just sayin', they didn't appeal to me when they were airing. I've heard enough positive things said about Firefly to give it a shot, but with nine seasons I'm too scared to get into Buffy...


7 seasons, not 9 (and not counting the comic book season 8 either).

If you do start, just a warning that the first season is pretty much average but almost manditory as far as setting up the rest of the series but it's completely worth it to stick with it. I ended up getting a friend hooked on the show after making him watch "Hush".

Anywho, I am excited about Dollhouse just because Whedon is attached to it and I think it could make for a fun series. I kind of wonder how crazy they'll go with some of the concepts... like zombie slaves. Are they talking about Romero-type zombies or just kind of the drugged out kind we hear about in real life.
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Postby DennisMM on Sun May 18, 2008 4:44 am

Mind-controlled with drugs, electronic modification and NLP, from what we've been shown.

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Postby Spifftacular SquirrelGirl on Sun May 18, 2008 4:47 am

DennisMM wrote:Mind-controlled with drugs, electronic modification and NLP, from what we've been shown.

All My Sins Remembered


I think I might be a member of the Dollhouse... especially after too much NiteQuill apparently. :D
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Postby DennisMM on Sun May 18, 2008 4:59 am

At least you're pretty and you'll fit in.
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Postby Spifftacular SquirrelGirl on Sun May 18, 2008 5:15 am

DennisMM wrote:At least you're pretty and you'll fit in.



Heeeeey, take it to the flirt thread, mister! :-P

All in all, I'm just excited that there's going to be another Joss Whedon show on the air and I'm more than a little sad that I'll probably have to wait until next year to see it (stupid mid-season replacement).

BTW Dennis, you know your comics a lot more than I do, but I think I remember a series a few years ago called Aphrodite that had kind of the same concept... some sort of super-agent who's mind gets erased after every mission only she starts to remember things. Recall that at all or should I really get off the nitequil? ;)
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Postby Ribbons on Sun May 18, 2008 5:33 am

Spifftacular SquirrelGirl wrote:I think I remember a series a few years ago called Aphrodite that had kind of the same concept... some sort of super-agent who's mind gets erased after every mission only she starts to remember things. Recall that at all or should I really get off the nitequil? ;)


Good call, I remembered seeing the comic around but I had no idea what it was about, but here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_IX

Wikipedia wrote:Although she has been "trained" to kill (her synthetic brain learns like an organic brain and does not require traditional programming), Aphrodite IX retains no memory of her actions; her brain is designed to experience an episode of amnesia at the end of each mission, apparently to protect her masters if not herself. This leads to ongoing confusion about what she does and for whom, exacerbated by subsequent episodes of amnesia. Although she becomes aware that she is intended as a killing machine (capable of taking out a single high security target or destroying a squad of armored government soldiers singlehandedly), she finds the idea increasingly distasteful and experiences dreams and desires like a human. This begins to undermine her morale but not her efficiency, as her conditioning takes over as her masters or survival circumstances require.


So it looks like you were right. Although you should probably still lay off the NyQuil.
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Postby Spifftacular SquirrelGirl on Sun May 18, 2008 5:35 am

Ribbons wrote:
Spifftacular SquirrelGirl wrote:I think I remember a series a few years ago called Aphrodite that had kind of the same concept... some sort of super-agent who's mind gets erased after every mission only she starts to remember things. Recall that at all or should I really get off the nitequil? ;)


Good call, I remembered seeing the comic around but I had no idea what it was about, but here ya go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_IX


Yuppers, that's the one. I just remembered it considering that they were going to make an anime series out of it (which according to the wiki article is sort of in limbo).
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Postby The Vicar on Sun May 18, 2008 8:29 am

Cut your Nyquil with Sloe Gin.
Hilarity will ensue.

Getting Dushku & Whedon back together again?
Count me as geeked.

On an unrelated note, Angel ( Boraenaz)
turned 39 last week.
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Postby zane on Sat May 24, 2008 11:53 am

HOpefully this mini series will be as good as Joss's previous one.
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Postby DennisMM on Sat May 24, 2008 7:45 pm

Spifftacular SquirrelGirl wrote:
DennisMM wrote:At least you're pretty and you'll fit in.



Heeeeey, take it to the flirt thread, mister! :-P

All in all, I'm just excited that there's going to be another Joss Whedon show on the air and I'm more than a little sad that I'll probably have to wait until next year to see it (stupid mid-season replacement).

BTW Dennis, you know your comics a lot more than I do, but I think I remember a series a few years ago called Aphrodite that had kind of the same concept... some sort of super-agent who's mind gets erased after every mission only she starts to remember things. Recall that at all or should I really get off the nitequil? ;)


I haven't been here in a week. Ribbons called it correctly.


I'd take it to the flirt thread if you ever showed up. ;) ;)

The Vicar wrote:On an unrelated note, Angel ( Boraenaz)
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Aging actors - one reason shows about immortals tend to look a bit strained after five or six years.
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Sat May 24, 2008 8:55 pm

189 People have signed the PETITION! Let's rally, Echoheads! This show isn't going to save itself!
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Postby bluebottle on Sat May 24, 2008 8:59 pm

burlivesleftnut wrote:189 People have signed the PETITION! Let's rally, Echoheads! This show isn't going to save itself!


Mail your little sister's dollhouses to FOX!
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Postby burlivesleftnut on Mon May 26, 2008 11:26 am

I have a better idea. Since this show is about assassins and shit, we should send all our semi-automatic hand guns to FOX.
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Postby Tyrone_Shoelaces on Mon May 26, 2008 3:27 pm

Nah, save on shipping and just send bullets. Lots and lots of bullets.
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Postby stereosforgeeks on Mon May 26, 2008 7:19 pm

Whedon talks Dollhouse with SciFi Wire

SciFi.com wrote:Fewer Breaks Affect Dollhouse

Writer-producer Joss Whedon told SCIFI Wire that he hadn't yet considered how his upcoming Fox SF series Dollhouse will be affected by the network's decision to air episodes with far fewer commercials and in-house promos than most shows.

Dollhouse and J.J. Abrams' in-the-works Fringe are both part of Fox's Remote-Free TV experiment, which is designed to deter viewers from reaching for the remote control.

One unforeseen consequence: Producers will need to deliver extra minutes in each episode for its initial broadcast, then cut those minutes for the episode's reruns, which will presumably carry more commercial interruptions.

"That's a good point," Whedon said when asked about it in New York last week at Fox's upfront presentation to advertisers. "They didn't bring up the repeats. But we have always had to cut out a couple of minutes for repeats. That's always been the way. I don't really deal with that that much. But they've also said, 'We want longer versions for the DVD.' So, ultimately, I tend to shoot long. Our shows tend to go long. Some come in short. It will happen. But generally they go long. So this just means a little less heartache in the editing room."

Dollhouse stars Eliza Dushku (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) as Echo, a member of an underground, illegal group of people who've had their personalities wiped clean, enabling them to be imprinted with any number of new personalities to carry out engagements at the behest of their handlers. Problems arise when Echo retains her memories and starts to question who she really is.

"When we cut a show down to 40 minutes, we've got to get the best 40 minutes," Whedon said of the editing. "We're not going to be like The Office and shoot way too much, but, yeah, we're going to have a production issue about shooting just a little bit more, because even if I love it at 46 minutes, there's a chance it could be tighter. And I never want to vamp. They're not going to get a bloated first cut. They're going to get a 46-minute story."

Dushku is more than just the show's leading lady; she's also one of its producers. And, according to Whedon, that's no vanity title.

"That was part of her deal," Whedon said. "When we sat down to lunch--and I had no intention of creating a show for her--she said, 'I have this deal. I'm a producer.' And that's because Eliza wants to protect herself. She wants to start shaping her career. Like Echo trying to find out who she is, Eliza has been [too]. I have seen her doing this. We've had a lot of these lunches over the years, [in which she talked about] trying to take control, and gradually, over the years, [she's done it]. It's very hard for an ingenue to do that."

Whedon added: "I said, 'Oh, wow, I've come up with a show, and I?ll do it with you, but you have to know, though, this thing about you having a producer credit: I'm going to make you earn it. I'm going to want your input. I'm going to want ideas. I'm going to want you to help me work out certain problems. This is our show.' She and I came at it from a very similar aesthetic view, a very similar political view and a great mutual trust. So, to me, it's an essential part of what the show says about people and about her, that she should be a producer." Dollhouse will premiere in early 2009. --Ian Spelling
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Postby tapehead on Mon May 26, 2008 10:44 pm

Want to be spoiled?

Half a dozen alleged script pages leaked from the new show...
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Postby Bob Samonkey on Mon May 26, 2008 10:49 pm

tapehead wrote:Want to be spoiled?


I just got my new season (3) of the Muppet Show yesterday so i am already spoiled. Thank you...
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