The Zone

by **RogueScribner** on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:20 am

I don't think she was trying to sound American. I think she was just toning down her own accent for the Americans' benefit. Her accent is pretty thick, IMO. Weird how it doesn't really affect her singing.

by **TheBaxter** on Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:13 pm

Retardo_Montalban wrote:Well the writing on this show is far from perfect. I just got that kind of vibe after watching the 20 minutes of Jesus imagery that came before it. what ever explanation is the correct one, it's going to be flawed as hell. I mean seriously, can you really reprogram a computer brain from the future with just a pipe cleaner and spit? I didn't even see a palm pilot that John could have used to reprogram that chip. Maybe I just want this show to be the western version of Ghost In The Shell.

maybe they are trying to maintain consistency with the upcoming christian bale terminator and [T4 spoiler]john connor is a terminator himself[/T4 spoiler]

by **bastard_robo** on Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:15 pm

RogueScribner wrote:I don't think she was trying to sound American. I think she was just toning down her own accent for the Americans' benefit. Her accent is pretty thick, IMO. Weird how it doesn't really affect her singing.

Just like Ozzy's stuttering dosent effect his singing

by **TheBaxter** on Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:05 am

oh. my. fuck.
i thought this show had dispensed with the stupid high school shit last season. now all of the sudden it's like "back to school with you, john!" so lame.
it's a shame, because i really liked the stuff with the nuclear plant, and even the stuff with the dude and his wife and the fbi agent now that they all know what's coming too. it's just so hard to take the show seriously when the connors keep doing stupid stuff every week.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:21 am

The nuclear power plant stuff made me angry. Cell phones in a control room? Ummm no! All the stuff that went down could never really happen. I realize this is a tv show but it was like China Syndrome all over again. Actually worse. Maybe nuclear tornado? or was it nuclear twister?

Fear the robots! not the nuke plants!

by **papalazeru** on Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:40 am

Not buying this series, its cliché and frickin boring.

The special effects look like they've just come straight out of Renegade or 'War of the worlds' series. The performances are ok but they are working to such a tried and tested formula.

I say put Shatner in it and call it T.J.Hooker again.

by **stereosforgeeks** on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:39 pm

Good turn by Summer Glau this week, but is TSCC dead?

by **Lord Voldemoo** on Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:55 pm

stereosforgeeks wrote:Good turn by Summer Glau this week, but is TSCC dead?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Too bad, really. This show is dumb far too often (even moreso, I think, than Heroes), but it does have flashes of coolness. And the potential was through the roof.

Good concept, bad execution.

by **RogueScribner** on Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:15 am

What was the point of this week's episode? Seriously, I don't get it. Cameron seemed to be remembering things she couldn't possibly remember (unless she bore witness to them, which I suppose is kinda possible). And why? And how will this play out in future episodes? Why the fuck are they screwing around with her and making her unstable? "Get of jail free card"? In James Cameron's hands, the Connors would have cut Cameron loose by now. They're forcing drama where there shouldn't be any. Why couldn't they go the T2 route and just make Cameron a learning computer and she grows via adaptation to prolonged exposure to humans? That'd be more believable than what they're doing now.

I get that playing a Terminator can be a pretty static experience, and I think Summer Glau did a good job this week (and is probably itching for more to do), but this is the wrong road to take. It's undermining the integrity of this series.

by **TheBaxter** on Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:39 am

Lord Voldemoo wrote:
stereosforgeeks wrote:Good turn by Summer Glau this week, but is TSCC dead?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Too bad, really. This show is dumb far too often (even moreso, I think, than Heroes), but it does have flashes of coolness. And the potential was through the roof.

Good concept, bad execution.

agreed. it started off pretty good and had lots of potential, but it's been squandered. even shirley manson has been wasted. i haven't even gotten around to watching the last two episodes because i can't bring myself to start them. i may just hold on to them and see whether the show gets axed or not. no point wasting my time watching a series that's going nowhere, especially when it's in the process of spinning its wheels.

by **eliguy** on Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:58 am

Terminator The Sarah Connor Chronicles, answering Terminator Questions that have plagued us for years. Can a Terminator cook a succulent roast? Can a Terminator manage a burgeoning construction company in post depression America? Can a Terminator seduce the leader of the human resistance? Its a shitty show, but I can't stop watching.

by **burlivesleftnut** on Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:33 am

Other Terminator ideas: Terminator Vatican City. Terminator L.A. Racist Police Force. Terminator Brazilians. Terminator Orthodox Jews. Terminator Mom. Terminator Astronauts. Terminator Civil Engineers. Terminator Record Producers. TERMINATOR RAPPERS. Terminator Great White Sharks. Terminator John Cheever. Terminator Political Party. Terminator Bachelor Party. Terminator Office Christmas Party. Terminator Boss. Terminator White Collar Middle Manager (Title? "IT STAFF REVENGE"). Terminator Parkourists. Terminator Trees ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Pornstars ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Addicts... like they don't WANT to kill John Connor anymore. And finally Terminator's on a Plane, or cruise ship even. TERMINATORS ON AN EARLY 30s ZEPELLIN.

by **Hermanator X** on Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:06 am

burlivesleftnut wrote:Other Terminator ideas: Terminator Vatican City. Terminator L.A. Racist Police Force. Terminator Brazilians. Terminator Orthodox Jews. Terminator Mom. Terminator Astronauts. Terminator Civil Engineers. Terminator Record Producers. TERMINATOR RAPPERS. Terminator Great White Sharks. Terminator John Cheever. Terminator Political Party. Terminator Bachelor Party. Terminator Office Christmas Party. Terminator Boss. Terminator White Collar Middle Manager (Title? "IT STAFF REVENGE"). Terminator Parkourists. Terminator Trees ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Pornstars ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Addicts... like they don't WANT to kill John Connor anymore. And finally Terminator's on a Plane, or cruise ship even. TERMINATORS ON AN EARLY 30s ZEPELLIN.

Hahaha. This one can run and run I tell thee.

Tech Wood is my favourite.

by **eliguy** on Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:21 pm

MYSTERY!?!? Who is this mysterious unisex girl and her creepy little sister? What do they have to do with the three dots? Will Cameron sleep with John? Well, John wasn't really in this episode but it was a lot better than last weeks nonsense. Bio weapons in the future was a good idea, annoying girlfriend from future still isn't that hot. So, what happens in the fall premiere? Besides, Cameron was mopping up Terminator's in the last few episodes like it was no problem, but she got her ass tore up tonight, and robot knocked out, whats up with that?

by **eliguy** on Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:22 pm

What a fucktard stupid episode. Cross dressers from the footure!

by **notverycool** on Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:00 pm

Hermanator X wrote:
burlivesleftnut wrote:Other Terminator ideas: Terminator Vatican City. Terminator L.A. Racist Police Force. Terminator Brazilians. Terminator Orthodox Jews. Terminator Mom. Terminator Astronauts. Terminator Civil Engineers. Terminator Record Producers. TERMINATOR RAPPERS. Terminator Great White Sharks. Terminator John Cheever. Terminator Political Party. Terminator Bachelor Party. Terminator Office Christmas Party. Terminator Boss. Terminator White Collar Middle Manager (Title? "IT STAFF REVENGE"). Terminator Parkourists. Terminator Trees ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Pornstars ("Tech Wood"). Terminator Addicts... like they don't WANT to kill John Connor anymore. And finally Terminator's on a Plane, or cruise ship even. TERMINATORS ON AN EARLY 30s ZEPELLIN.

Hahaha. This one can run and run I tell thee.

Tech Wood is my favourite.

"Terminator John Cheever" Excellent. It would be a bit different because the 9000 would hop the first fence, jump into the neighbor's pool and then sink to the bottom. Very short, short story. No big moment of bitter realization of a desperately hollow existence. And not enough Gin.

by **burlivesleftnut** on Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:49 pm

I was thinking this John Cheever.

by **Fievel** on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:19 am

Wow.
Derek getting shot within the first 10 minutes of the episode was something that I did NOT see coming.
I like this show hope that if/when it's canceled that it ends well enough within its own mythology.
Of course it would be uber-cool if it related to the new movie in some way, but I doubt that it will.

by **Retardo_Montalban** on Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:58 am

I watched this episode and thought it was aces. It was exciting and Garret Dillahunt Is doing awesome as a robot man-child.

by **ONeillSG1** on Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:28 pm

He'll be back. Any show that deals with time travel deals with alternate time lines, and ALTERNATE VERSIONS of people.

If they get to season 3 he'll be back somehow.

by **sonnyboo** on Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:09 pm

Fievel wrote:Wow.
Derek getting shot within the first 10 minutes of the episode was something that I did NOT see coming.

Me neither. First, he loses the hottest fiance on the planet with Megan Fox, now this. Dude's not having a good week. Maybe he can go back to the new 90210....

by **Brit Pop** on Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:14 pm

I really like this show.... too bad its possibly gonna get canned.

The shocking thing that you have been discussing over the last couple of posts - I was not expecting at all...

but thats why its not Heroes! ... Heroes never kills anyone off... this show just whacks them with no fanfare, no big ending, no redemption... it just does it!!

If your reading network execs.... PLEASE LET THIS SHOW LIVE!!!

by **Fievel** on Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:26 pm

I think the thing that I like about "that event that has been Spoiler Texted" is that there was absolutely ZERO fanfare surrounding it.
It didn't get the prerequisite slow-motion shot followed by the other characters' anguished reactions (also in slow motion).
It happened and the action continued. Only after the fight was over did they go back briefly and address it.
That was awesome.

by **Brit Pop** on Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:30 pm

Fievel wrote:I think the thing that I like about "that event that has been Spoiler Texted" is that there was absolutely ZERO fanfare surrounding it.
It didn't get the prerequisite slow-motion shot followed by the other characters' anguished reactions (also in slow motion).
It happened and the action continued. Only after the fight was over did they go back briefly and address it.
That was awesome.

Seconded! Like it nor not.... its nice when writers / producers have the bollocks to do something like that! No 'dumbing down' for the audience.... the way they did that make you feel more about the event than building it up with slo-mo and heavy music!

Kudos to TTSCC makers - if I had my way... the show would go on!

by **judderman** on Fri Apr 10, 2009 5:02 pm

Yep. It's also a wonderful vindication of the Terminator concept. Because Terminators don't stop to gloat, they don't get second thoughts. They just kill you. Because that's what they do.

by **burlivesleftnut** on Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:52 am

Hmph. Great season finale... please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel please don't cancel

by **Brit Pop** on Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:43 am

Hopefully this show will be saved - its awesome! Great end to the season, if not a little confusing.

But they ended it on such a corker that the fans will INSIST on a follow up season.

...It worked for Jericho, for a limited time that was.

by **Retardo_Montalban** on Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:46 pm

That was a great season finale, but totally fucks up any continuity the T.V. show could have with the new movie.

John penetrated Cameron!

by **burlivesleftnut** on Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:35 pm

Retardo_Montalban wrote:That was a great season finale, but totally fucks up any continuity the T.V. show could have with the new movie.

John penetrated Cameron!

Yeah but it fucks it up temporarily. And I did like the surprise that Manson is our first GOOD T1000, and then whole Cameronthing really bummed my shit.

by **judderman** on Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:46 am

I suppose we're never gonna know, but any thoughts on who the new Messiah is? My guess is John Henry w/Cameron's brain chip.

by **Retardo_Montalban** on Sun Apr 12, 2009 1:46 pm

judderman wrote:I suppose we're never gonna know, but any thoughts on who the new Messiah is? My guess is John Henry w/Cameron's brain chip.

But would John Henry be John Henry? If replacing a single wire in John Henry's CPU tweaks his personality, what would downloading his entirety into a single chip do? It can't be a coincidence that the wire swapping scene was included in this episode.

John Henry was a steel driving man
He drove steel all over this land
And every time a train goes rumbling by his grave
They say 'Down yonder lies a Steel driving man!'
Lawd Lawdy
Yonder lies a steel driving man.

by **Fievel** on Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:36 pm

So.....
John's in the future - a future where "John Connor" means nothing.
Weaver is now good?!? She seemed evil enough before, but I have absolutely no recollection of the specific people she killed.
Cameron in the future is human?

So could Weaver or John Henry replace Cameron as the Connor Terminator and then human Cameron become John's girlfriend?

"Confusing" doesn't even begin to cover it.

I really don't understand what happened to John Henry.

This show desperately needs to come back.

by **judderman** on Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:17 pm

This show has a pretty good track record of answering my criticisms (Cromartie's head making it to the future notwithstanding) but this one is a bt of a doozy. If John Connor isn't needed for the Resistence to form, then what have the last three movies and TV series been about? It seems if he is not there, the Resistence forms anyway. Way to invalidate an entire franchise.

by **Fievel** on Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:42 pm

They can easily clear this up with their "multiple futures" plausibility that they've introduced with Derek earlier, but I'm assuming that if they get another season it will all (hopefully) make sense...?

by **Retardo_Montalban** on Mon Apr 13, 2009 12:08 am

judderman wrote:This show has a pretty good track record of answering my criticisms (Cromartie's head making it to the future notwithstanding) but this one is a bt of a doozy. If John Connor isn't needed for the Resistence to form, then what have the last three movies and TV series been about? It seems if he is not there, the Resistence forms anyway. Way to invalidate an entire franchise.

In the original Terminator, John Connor wasn't just the leader of the resistance, but he was on the cusp of defeating Skynet.

by **spock of the walk** on Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:17 am

judging by the ages of derek and kyle john jumped pretty far in to the future and into the resistance. im not sure what the writers were thinking other than having a feel good moment for the end of the season and probably series with kyle, derek and allison there.
i loved the show and fox gave it the death penalty on monday in the fall and friday in the spring which pisses me off. now they have the extra money to spend on some tarded reality tv show.

by **ONeillSG1** on Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:35 pm

Uh-oh. This doesn't sound good.

by **Ribbons** on Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:37 pm

I don't know much about this show at all, nevermind behind-the-scenes, but the cynic in me feels like it was always their plan to cancel the series right before Terminator 4 came out, or at least that its primary function was to serve as a giant commercial. I remember reading some interview where one of the producers of the "Snake Plissken" franchise said they wanted to launch a comic book series about the character so that they could then drum up enough publicity to make a new movie, and I guess this news made me think of that.

by **max314** on Fri May 01, 2009 7:33 pm

First off, I totally love this show.

Secondly, the last episode was fucking amazing. Everything got paid off, all questions were answered from both seasons, and a whole bunch of new questions have been posed.

Thirdly, I know the series is under threat of cancellation, but there may be a glimmer of hope:

The Fans Have Spoken: Save Terminator!

Today 6:50 AM PDT by Jennifer Godwin

Congratulations to our 2009 Save One Show winner, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles!

In case you don't know, Save One Show is E!'s annual opportunity for fans to determine which TV series in danger of cancellation most needs to be saved. Past winners have included Angel, One Tree Hill and Veronica Mars. This year, in true killer-cyborg fashion, Terminator kicked ass, with 53 percent of the final round vote. Chuck was the runnerup with 25 percent (#savechuck), followed by Dollhouse with 10 percent, Life with eight percent and Privileged with four percent.

What about Lost Causes We Love? With 34 percent of the vote, Kyle XY was the winner of our first-ever Lost Causes We Love competition to determine which totally-canceled show should be rescued from oblivion. Our dearly departed Pushing Daisies was runner-up with 21 percent.

When the results of your 300,000 votes came in, we called up Terminator showrunner and executive producer Josh Friedman with the good news and he told exclusively, "I think I speak for everybody who works on the show when I say thank you to the fans for their tireless work to save our show. I think it really goes to show that there's a really hard-core, emotional, passionate fanbase for Terminator that is larger and more widespread than people give us credit for."

Read on for the full SOS and Lost Cause results, plus find out how being a Terminator boss is like being Brangelina and, most importantly, the exclusive word from Josh about the future of the show...

COMPLETE RESULTS

SAVE ONE SHOW: FINAL ROUND

Chuck: 25%
Dollhouse: 10%
Life: 8%
Privileged: 4%
Terminator: 53%

SOURCE

I love the ethic of the series, as well as its overall execution. No "Terminator of the Week". It's a real arc-based series with a grand plan and some episodes that indulge in downtime to explore character, etc, which is something I really enjoy.

Here's hoping for a THIRD SEASON!!

by **Doc Holliday** on Mon May 04, 2009 5:28 am

Great show - I'll be gutted if its cancelled, but I reckon its pretty likely it will. It flies in the face of too many golden rules (and its al; the better for it).

Its incredibly dark, dialogue heavy and....(whisper it gently)...intelligent. A series that unapologetically demands you earn the finale. My g/f can't stand it, which means I invariably end up watching it right at the end of an 18 hour day. There are times when that becomes a labour of love - forcing the eyes to remain open, the ears to receive information, the brain to process it. There's nothing popcorn about this show.

The rewards are there - so many good episodes. The arc of each character is complex and expertly interwoven with each other. The third season would be fantastic - I just hope that they make it.

by **burlivesleftnut** on Mon May 18, 2009 9:17 pm

good bye Sarah Conner!

by **RogueScribner** on Mon May 18, 2009 10:57 pm

This show drifted way off track with subplots and lame "character" episodes in the middle of the season. I quit watching sometime after they got back from Mexico. I heard it picked up towards the end, but I imagine it was too little too late for more than just me, which is why it isn't coming back. The show had potential, though. Which is more than I can say for Heroes at this point.

by **TheBaxter** on Tue May 19, 2009 12:26 am

now that the show has been officially terminated (ha ha) i may go back and watch the remainder of the season on blu-ray. i lost interest the beginning of the season when john connor went back to high school AGAIN. but it sounds like it ended strong, even if not entirely wrapped up.

by **TheButcher** on Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:51 am

Exclusive: A "Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles" MOVIE?!

Randy Jennings wrote:James Middleton, the executive producer for Rise of the Machines and Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, just told me that he wants the gang back. If Annapurna Pictures will get on board, he and producer/writer Josh Friedman want to give the fans a full-blown movie!

James Middleton: "You know, Josh Friedman and I have talked a lot about this (and I mean A LOT) and he recently tweeted about it in the wake of the VM (Veronica Mars) excitement. The issue is that the current owners of the franchise seem to have no interest in reviving TSCC. And if they were interested, they would not need Kickstarter to finance the movie. There are well-funded entities that have previously expressed strong interest in reviving TSCC and the franchise owners (Annapurna Pictures) - through their reps - have passed on the idea. WBTV no longer has the sole right to restart the series or to do a spinoff, so the participation of the current franchise owners is critical. But they seem to be focussed on making Terminator movies at the moment which is not shocking or even a surprise. Josh and I would love to do a TSCC movie, if it were possible. A movie would be more feasible to schedule with the cast."

by **TheButcher** on Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:38 am

New 'Terminator' TV Series in the Works
From Skydance Productions and Annapurna Pictures, "Thor's" Zack Stentz and Ashley Miller will pen the script that will be in conjunction with the rebooted film.

by **TheButcher** on Thu Apr 02, 2015 4:08 pm

Sarah Connor Chronicles is the Best Part of the Terminator franchise

With Genysis coming up, folks are talking Terminator again. There's discussions on the original movie, concerns over this rebooting the whole thing and comparisons between Linda Hamilton and Emilia Clarke already abounding. However, all this is simply reminding me of something I've long held to: That the best part of the entire franchise is Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

Lasting only two season and a total of 31 episodes (its first season one of many shows hit hard by the 2007 Writer's Strike), the series is more than just a fantastic sci-fi action show. It's also a brilliant example of how best to use the source material of a franchise and spin it in fantastic new ways, deepening what you know and leading to a fantastic final product.