AVATAR (Now w/ Worldwide Eyeball Rape)

[Nachokoolaid]

There's a pretty detailed synopsis in the main thread that Kirk posted if you're interested. I stopped reading about half-way through for fear of spoilers.

[TheButcher]

From THR:

James Cameron cried Tuesday as he strode onto a stage -- with his 3-D glasses on -- to unveil the first publicly shown clips from his $300 million 3-D sci-fi actioner "Avatar."

Did Cameron really spend $300 million on this movie?

[Fried Gold]

From THR:

James Cameron cried Tuesday as he strode onto a stage -- with his 3-D glasses on -- to unveil the first publicly shown clips from his $300 million 3-D sci-fi actioner "Avatar."

Did Cameron really spend $300 million on this movie?

Does seem rather inflated. I would think that value is taking into account the develop of the new filming technologies and stuff.

[Animorganimate]

ComingSoon.net has a picture of a poster with a blue alien face on it:



Click here for the full story.

[papalazeru]

You know what?

This could be so big, so grandiose, so over excubrient that it ends up being an Titan AE and not selling a single ticket.


Then it's back to handicam films.

[Sodacake]

Titan A.E. wasn't really marketed properly. I think that Fox are fully aware of the scale of this movie enough that they'll have a huge ad campaign for this thing. Too much money has been spent on this movie for it not to succeed.

[DennisMM]

This project, from the start, has struck me as more interesting as a production process than as a movie. I don't care how vigorously it fucks my eyeballs unless the story and acting are strong. Let's hope Cameron didn't just get caught up in playing with his toys.

[Sodacake]

Yeah, I'm trying to stay positive about this movie, but I can totally see it not being as huge as it's being hyped to be.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Nah man! I can't WAIT to see this movie. I do think it will be everything that people say it will be. Cameron makes his films so unprolifically for a reason - that if a film's not worth making, than don't bother making it. And by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say. Aliens, The Abyss. Now we got Avatar (Starting with an A too. Good sign!) The story behind that sounds to be about an Outsider who finds acceptance and belonging in a race that isn't even of his own kind and consequently, possibly ends up turning AGAINST his own kind. So it's about loneliness, love, then courage and fighting and sacrifice, but set against the theme of being - Alien. Then you got the world it's set in backing this story up, and what goes with it to tell this story and paint this world, you've got some mould breaking tools of FX which will show you stuff you've never seen before, give you a cinematic experience you've never seen before, a moving story as well as something eye exploding.

I think it will be an amazing movie to say the least, thus, a big one. If you wankers complain about how shite TF2 is but still let it gross over 600 milly worldwide, then you should surely do Avatar justice and give it the success that it deserves.

[burlivesleftnut]

Nah man! I can't WAIT to see this movie. I do think it will be everything that people say it will be. Cameron makes his films so unprolifically for a reason - that if a film's not worth making, than don't bother making it. And by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say. Aliens, The Abyss. Now we got Avatar (Starting with an A too. Good sign!) The story behind that sounds to be about an Outsider who finds acceptance and belonging in a race that isn't even of his own kind and consequently, possibly ends up turning AGAINST his own kind. So it's about loneliness, love, then courage and fighting and sacrifice, but set against the theme of being - Alien. Then you got the world it's set in backing this story up, and what goes with it to tell this story and paint this world, you've got some mould breaking tools of FX which will show you stuff you've never seen before, give you a cinematic experience you've never seen before, a moving story as well as something eye exploding.

I think it will be an amazing movie to say the least, thus, a big one. If you wankers complain about how shite TF2 is but still let it gross over 600 milly worldwide, then you should surely do Avatar justice and give it the success that it deserves.

You say all this, but I can't help but think about his last movie, Titanic, which was a thin story, badly written, and a mere showcase for special effects. Effects, I might add, that didn't even hold up (in some cases) to initial viewing (i'm looking at you CGI people walking mechanically back and forth on the deck of the ship). I love Cameron's work, but he's NOT perfect. T2 is overrated, True Lies is a fun movie, but not a good one, and Titanic is just crap.

[King Of Nowhere]

...by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say.

Did you see Titanic?

EDIT: Damn, Burl beat me to it.

[RogueScribner]

Titanic had some poor dialogue, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that the script was poorly written. I've read the script and it was anything but poorly written. With all that it had to cover, I thought it was actually very well written, some dialogue notwithstanding. But it was plot-driven and not character-driven (outside of Rose's arc), so I get why some people may not think it was the greatest story ever told. Jack and Cal were archetypes rather than fully fleshed out characters, but the story was about Rose and the big boat. They didn't really detract from that. Archetypes can serve their purpose (see Star Wars or pretty much any western).

[Nachokoolaid]

Nah man! I can't WAIT to see this movie. I do think it will be everything that people say it will be. Cameron makes his films so unprolifically for a reason - that if a film's not worth making, than don't bother making it. And by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say. Aliens, The Abyss. Now we got Avatar (Starting with an A too. Good sign!) The story behind that sounds to be about an Outsider who finds acceptance and belonging in a race that isn't even of his own kind and consequently, possibly ends up turning AGAINST his own kind. So it's about loneliness, love, then courage and fighting and sacrifice, but set against the theme of being - Alien. Then you got the world it's set in backing this story up, and what goes with it to tell this story and paint this world, you've got some mould breaking tools of FX which will show you stuff you've never seen before, give you a cinematic experience you've never seen before, a moving story as well as something eye exploding.

I think it will be an amazing movie to say the least, thus, a big one. If you wankers complain about how shite TF2 is but still let it gross over 600 milly worldwide, then you should surely do Avatar justice and give it the success that it deserves.

You say all this, but I can't help but think about his last movie, Titanic, which was a thin story, badly written, and a mere showcase for special effects. Effects, I might add, that didn't even hold up (in some cases) to initial viewing (i'm looking at you CGI people walking mechanically back and forth on the deck of the ship). I love Cameron's work, but he's NOT perfect. T2 is overrated, True Lies is a fun movie, but not a good one, and Titanic is just crap.

Ok Burl, I know hindsight is 20/20, but c'mon man. Those effects were amazing when the film first came out. Bash the story and shit all you want, but the effects were top notch.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Can't wait for the AVATAR panel and The Visionaries panel with Cameron. Should finally see some footage next week!

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

But... but.... I LIKED TItanic!!!!

[John-Locke]

Nah man! I can't WAIT to see this movie. I do think it will be everything that people say it will be. Cameron makes his films so unprolifically for a reason - that if a film's not worth making, than don't bother making it. And by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say. Aliens, The Abyss. Now we got Avatar (Starting with an A too. Good sign!) The story behind that sounds to be about an Outsider who finds acceptance and belonging in a race that isn't even of his own kind and consequently, possibly ends up turning AGAINST his own kind. So it's about loneliness, love, then courage and fighting and sacrifice, but set against the theme of being - Alien. Then you got the world it's set in backing this story up, and what goes with it to tell this story and paint this world, you've got some mould breaking tools of FX which will show you stuff you've never seen before, give you a cinematic experience you've never seen before, a moving story as well as something eye exploding.

I think it will be an amazing movie to say the least, thus, a big one. If you wankers complain about how shite TF2 is but still let it gross over 600 milly worldwide, then you should surely do Avatar justice and give it the success that it deserves.

You say all this, but I can't help but think about his last movie, Titanic, which was a thin story, badly written, and a mere showcase for special effects. Effects, I might add, that didn't even hold up (in some cases) to initial viewing (i'm looking at you CGI people walking mechanically back and forth on the deck of the ship). I love Cameron's work, but he's NOT perfect. T2 is overrated, True Lies is a fun movie, but not a good one, and Titanic is just crap.

Ok Burl, I know hindsight is 20/20, but c'mon man. Those effects were amazing when the film first came out. Bash the story and shit all you want, but the effects were top notch.

I'm with Burl on the crappy CGI Deckwalkers in Titanic, I remember thinking how silly they looked in the cinema.

[Nachokoolaid]

Nah man! I can't WAIT to see this movie. I do think it will be everything that people say it will be. Cameron makes his films so unprolifically for a reason - that if a film's not worth making, than don't bother making it. And by his standards, a movie for him to make has gotta be something special, for all of us. As in something that we haven't seen or even felt before. But it's not all wizz bang effects or visuals. Think about his stories, at the core, the emotion that they are about, or what they are trying to say. Aliens, The Abyss. Now we got Avatar (Starting with an A too. Good sign!) The story behind that sounds to be about an Outsider who finds acceptance and belonging in a race that isn't even of his own kind and consequently, possibly ends up turning AGAINST his own kind. So it's about loneliness, love, then courage and fighting and sacrifice, but set against the theme of being - Alien. Then you got the world it's set in backing this story up, and what goes with it to tell this story and paint this world, you've got some mould breaking tools of FX which will show you stuff you've never seen before, give you a cinematic experience you've never seen before, a moving story as well as something eye exploding.

I think it will be an amazing movie to say the least, thus, a big one. If you wankers complain about how shite TF2 is but still let it gross over 600 milly worldwide, then you should surely do Avatar justice and give it the success that it deserves.

You say all this, but I can't help but think about his last movie, Titanic, which was a thin story, badly written, and a mere showcase for special effects. Effects, I might add, that didn't even hold up (in some cases) to initial viewing (i'm looking at you CGI people walking mechanically back and forth on the deck of the ship). I love Cameron's work, but he's NOT perfect. T2 is overrated, True Lies is a fun movie, but not a good one, and Titanic is just crap.

Ok Burl, I know hindsight is 20/20, but c'mon man. Those effects were amazing when the film first came out. Bash the story and shit all you want, but the effects were top notch.

I'm with Burl on the crappy CGI Deckwalkers in Titanic, I remember thinking how silly they looked in the cinema.

I like you man, but you're crAAZYYYYY.

[burlivesleftnut]

Dude one of the deckwalkers doesn't even walk that far before he starts walking backwards! And yeah, MOST of the effects were good, but I still think it's a crummy film. He even ripped off his own schtick with Leo handcuffed in a room filling with water... too similar to the heartbreaking scene from The Abyss where Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio bites it.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Walter and the Tigers is more sad than Titanic. Burl.

Can't wait for the AVATAR panel and The Visionaries panel with Cameron. Should finally see some footage next week!

Yeah man, can't wait. Finally!!! Though at the end of the day, I hope all the real dazzling sight for sore eyes footage of the movie is SAVED for the movie itself and not leaked. Not too much of this jets blowing up the bridge in the True Lies trailer kind of, stuff.

[burlivesleftnut]

Amen, brutha... I am sick of trailers showing all the money shots.

[Nachokoolaid]

Amen, brutha... I am sick of trailers showing all the money shots.

On that, we agree, Burl.

[Ribbons]

Amen, brutha... I am sick of trailers showing all the money shots.

On that, we agree, Burl.

But nothing else?

[Nachokoolaid]

Amen, brutha... I am sick of trailers showing all the money shots.

On that, we agree, Burl.

But nothing else?

No. There was something else. We both liked Star Trek or something. That's about it, though.

[burlivesleftnut]

LOL

[Fried Gold]

The Comic-con panel for Avatar - http://is.gd/1Pyym - note that it involved lots of talking and no actual footage (don't know if any was shown or that it just wasn't recorded).

[TheButcher]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

[Fried Gold]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

[travis-dane]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Like the Matrix trilogy did.
Who knows?

[Peven]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Like the Matrix trilogy did.
Who knows?

are you from an alternate dimension where the Matrix sequels are actual worth watching?

[Bloo]

I've yet to see the third Matrix movie in it's entirity

[Fried Gold]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Like the Star Wars trilogy did.
Who knows?

Corrected.

[travis-dane]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Like the Star Wars trilogy did.
Who knows?

Corrected.

I did not know you like the prequels so much dude...
But everybody has his own taste.
Matrix Trilogy is my thing.

[Nachokoolaid]

Oooh... I like games. Let me try.

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Like the Lord of the Rings trilogy did.
Who knows?

Corrected (again).

[Peven]

Nacho, your avatar is KILLING ME!!!!!!!!!

[travis-dane]

Oooh... I like games. Let me try.

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron on 'Avatar': Like 'Matrix,' 'This movie is a doorway'

...but will have over-indulgant and disappointing sequels?

or maybe it will turn in one of the best trilogys ever?
Not like the Lord of the Rings trilogy, which is a overrated borefest.
Who knows?

Corrected (again).

Re-corrected.

[Nachokoolaid]

Nacho, your avatar is KILLING ME!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget to vote!

And yes... one can stare at it for several hours at a time. It puts you into a comfortable trance.

[TheButcher]

From Hero Complex:
James Cameron: Yes, 'Avatar' is 'Dances with Wolves' in space. . .sorta

[Fievel]

Trailer coming Thursday

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Can't wait for that Trailer. Our life is gonna change that day. Plus I love the Dances With Wolves take on it with the outsider of his race leading it to join and fall in love with the race that his one is oppressing. I get bored reading ab out the FX on this movie, I'm much more thrilled by the story and acting news on it.

Meanwhile, here's a pic of the Alien from that film. Sam Worthington looks like a right Chav methinks.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42062

Also can't believe no one posted Quint's interview with Cameron himself about Avatar...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41920

[papalazeru]

Got preview tickets for Avatar on Friday.

Am looking forward to it like noones business.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

So why tell us about it then?

[Hermanator X]

Sam Worthington looks like a right Chav methinks

CHAVATAR. Sam Worthington gets his mind transplanted into a souped up vauxhall nova.

Sorry for interupting your discussion with this pointless gag. Carry on....

[papalazeru]

So why tell us about it then?

Because I'll spill my guts here first off all about it.

Jealous much Kirk?

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

So why tell us about it then?

Because I'll spill my guts here first off all about it.

Jealous much Kirk?

On the contrary. Seeing so much of this movie before you see the actual film itself, months in advance I think goes EXACTLY against the enjoyment of the movie when it DOES come out in full. You've already seen too much of it that it ruins the fresh experience of it. Did it with all the PT SW trailers combined before I saw the movies.

Pershonally I think you're jusht a bunch of bloody idiotsh.

[papalazeru]

Pershonally I think you're jusht a bunch of bloody idiotsh.

It's bloody 4:30, you shouldn't be drunk and doing Sean Connery impression this early!!!

[so sorry]

Trailer coming Thursday

Finally... can't wait to see it!

[Pacino86845]

Ok So I totally forgot about the free IMAX 3D preview until about 10 minutes ago when I saw the TB on the main site... did anyone actually try to get tickets for this thing? The sites keep crashing now, and it looks like those who moved quickly managed to get multiple ticket hand outs (apparently there's a limit of 2 tickets per "order") whereas the vast majority get nothing. How much do you guys reckon tickets will be scalped for among the nerd community? 'cause if there's one demographic that will spend just about any amount of money for something essentially worthless it's the nerd demographic. That fact alone sort of infuriates me, but perhaps it's for the best that I not sit in the same dark room as those dweebs.

On another, equally infuriating note, Merrick only started the TB for the free Avatar screening after having trouble getting tickets for himself... fuckin' shit should've been posted like two hours before as a reminder to non-nerds that maybe they could get tickets too. Fuckin' Merrick is the new Herc.

EDIT: Ok so weirdly the site decided to work again and it stated that I'll be receiving a confirmation... RIGHT! Here it is in case u don't know: For Canada, and For the US, and I think another one for the US.

[Pacino86845]

The Apple website is experience some difficulties... but this link for the Avatar teaser seems to work all right: http://www.apple.com/movies/fox/avatar/avatar2009aug0820a-tsr_720p.mov

And I've been assured via e-mail confirmation that I will be able to get my tickets for the preview event tomorrow. I will likely have shitty seats as I don't plan on going hours in advance, but I will post my thoughts... from the teaser though two things can be said:

1) Visually the film is extremely ambitious, and it's rather this aspect that I think inspired all the talk of eyeball rape, because-
2) The CG is still CG, there are still a couple of moments of rubbery-looking creatures, even this film's version of the Aliens loader looks too CG in one shot in particular.

[Fievel]

I can't get any of the HD links to work.

[Pacino86845]

Yeah the site is messing up, but click the link I posted, that one worked for me.