Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Yeah, but Gunslingers can have sex, and as Roland has shown so far, don't always have that much compassion for other people's lives, or at least, aren't THAT against sacrificing them.
The Todd wrote:The Jedi are pussies who can't beat the X-Men. Gunslingers are bad-asses who would shoot the X-Men dead without breaking a sweat.
Roland FTW-FIVE!!!!!
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I'm gonna get The Dark Tower final novel for my Christmas present this year. I wonder if that has any meaning?
Bloo wrote:I don't know if anyone cares or not but I played (or rather play, I still do ILOL) a Roland inspired gunslinger in a D&D game
justcheckin wrote:Bloo wrote:I don't know if anyone cares or not but I played (or rather play, I still do ILOL) a Roland inspired gunslinger in a D&D game
nice... I've never been into those games but that would be a cool character to play...
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Finished Song of Susannah. HAH! Beat you to it, Pacino! You don't 'arf suck. I should be Admin here, not you! One of my faves in the series, as after the 2 huge bricks that came before, this was short, superfast and more suspenseful and action packed. But still, hurry up and have that freaking baby will ya?
Now onto The Dark Tower, that I got for Christmas. Oh dear! Callahan died!Roland's boy/Mia's baby turned out to be a Spider? WTF?! And what's with all those rat-headed people?! Jake is about to find Susannah, and that's as far as I am now.
Overall, loving it so far. We really do care for these characters a bit like family now don't we? Wonder what the future brings for them.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote: And what's with all those rat-headed people?!
justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Finished Song of Susannah. HAH! Beat you to it, Pacino! You don't 'arf suck. I should be Admin here, not you! One of my faves in the series, as after the 2 huge bricks that came before, this was short, superfast and more suspenseful and action packed. But still, hurry up and have that freaking baby will ya?
Now onto The Dark Tower, that I got for Christmas. Oh dear! Callahan died!Roland's boy/Mia's baby turned out to be a Spider? WTF?! And what's with all those rat-headed people?! Jake is about to find Susannah, and that's as far as I am now.
Overall, loving it so far. We really do care for these characters a bit like family now don't we? Wonder what the future brings for them.
I think you are going to breeze through this book. It is one of my favorites.
Fievel wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote: And what's with all those rat-headed people?!
Way back in the (revised) first book, they are mentioned around the time that Roland meets the farmer (and his bird Zoltan).
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Fievel wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote: And what's with all those rat-headed people?!
Way back in the (revised) first book, they are mentioned around the time that Roland meets the farmer (and his bird Zoltan).
Don't remember. Ah, the thing about these books, is that they're gagging for a 2nd read. With the brief descriptions of some freaky shit, these aren't books best read fast, which is what I do.
justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Fievel wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote: And what's with all those rat-headed people?!
Way back in the (revised) first book, they are mentioned around the time that Roland meets the farmer (and his bird Zoltan).
Don't remember. Ah, the thing about these books, is that they're gagging for a 2nd read. With the brief descriptions of some freaky shit, these aren't books best read fast, which is what I do.
I had to read The Gunslinger again after I finished. You almost have to.
And just to clarify, the rat-headed people issue because I kept confusing the Taheen and the Can-Toi until I actually looked it up.
The Taheen have the heads of animals and don't make an attempt to hide their appearance. It is thought that they come from in-between the Prim and the natural world and are sometimes called the third people. There are two Taheen subspecies, avian and mammalian. They can choose like humankind to be good or bad and are usually higher up than the Can-toi.
The Can-toi (also known as the Low Men) have human shaped bodies with the deformed shape of a rats head. They also have the red-bleeding eye hole in their forehead. They are the ones who like to dress in loud clothing and wear latex masks to try and look human both holding humanity high and mocking it at the same time. They are supposed to be the product of Taheen and human cross breading and they originated in the todash spaces between worlds. They all serve the Crimson King.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Thanks. But heh it's a little late for THIS kinda feedback! Seeing as they all just got shot around the 100 page mark of The Dak Tower so it all don't matter!
Nachokoolaid wrote: In fact, it's really got me wishing that the entire series was set in this time and followed young Roland and his buddies and Susan. I'll actually miss them when I get back to the main narrative. I hope it comes back to this at some point in the future.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Fievel wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote: And what's with all those rat-headed people?!
Way back in the (revised) first book, they are mentioned around the time that Roland meets the farmer (and his bird Zoltan).
Don't remember. Ah, the thing about these books, is that they're gagging for a 2nd read. With the brief descriptions of some freaky shit, these aren't books best read fast, which is what I do.
I had to read The Gunslinger again after I finished. You almost have to.
And just to clarify, the rat-headed people issue because I kept confusing the Taheen and the Can-Toi until I actually looked it up.
The Taheen have the heads of animals and don't make an attempt to hide their appearance. It is thought that they come from in-between the Prim and the natural world and are sometimes called the third people. There are two Taheen subspecies, avian and mammalian. They can choose like humankind to be good or bad and are usually higher up than the Can-toi.
The Can-toi (also known as the Low Men) have human shaped bodies with the deformed shape of a rats head. They also have the red-bleeding eye hole in their forehead. They are the ones who like to dress in loud clothing and wear latex masks to try and look human both holding humanity high and mocking it at the same time. They are supposed to be the product of Taheen and human cross breading and they originated in the todash spaces between worlds. They all serve the Crimson King.
Thanks. But heh it's a little late for THIS kinda feedback! Seeing as they all just got shot around the 100 page mark of The Dak Tower so it all don't matter!
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Well you're in for the long haul now, so keep on moving.
I liked The Wastelands myself. The hardest part of the readings I thought were the beginning of Roland's coming of age story as it was just setting up and introducing the scene and characters. Was an impatient read but my God the payoff at the end of that story, all of it just swelled up in my throat. It's the most intense of the whole series right there.
You're going fast through those huge doorstep of the 2 books though, looks like you got God speed already. I'll see you at The Dark Tower! Probably get there before me though at this rate.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I was well on my way, but I've been very busy lately with sending my Tiger Shark movie to film festivals and stuff and other stuff have distracted me. Just not in the mood to read when I'm so immersed in other obsessions, it's just the way my mind works.
But I like staying in Roland's world and having it still last and still some way to go before I have to leave it. Like John-Locke did by stopping reading deliberately so he could remain in The Dark Tower world, I guess I've ended up doing the same.
I read The Talisman before The Dark Tower. Like that book a lot. I was hoping we would spend more time in The Territories and the other existence of that place rather than so much time in America as we know it, but I still liked it a great deal. Time spent with Wolf was my fave part by far. Heard about it's sequel, not so sure about that, as it doesn't seem to relate to The Talisman a great deal.
Am I wrong?
justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I was well on my way, but I've been very busy lately with sending my Tiger Shark movie to film festivals and stuff and other stuff have distracted me. Just not in the mood to read when I'm so immersed in other obsessions, it's just the way my mind works.
But I like staying in Roland's world and having it still last and still some way to go before I have to leave it. Like John-Locke did by stopping reading deliberately so he could remain in The Dark Tower world, I guess I've ended up doing the same.
I read The Talisman before The Dark Tower. Like that book a lot. I was hoping we would spend more time in The Territories and the other existence of that place rather than so much time in America as we know it, but I still liked it a great deal. Time spent with Wolf was my fave part by far. Heard about it's sequel, not so sure about that, as it doesn't seem to relate to The Talisman a great deal.
Am I wrong?
Um, not to spoil it too much... Black House has the same main character (Jack), some of the same smaller characters and territory flipping. It isn't about saving his mom, it is about saving a town from a serial killer who can also flip. I rather liked it. It is a bit more graphic (some typical Stephen King murders and mob mayhem).
Fievel wrote:justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I was well on my way, but I've been very busy lately with sending my Tiger Shark movie to film festivals and stuff and other stuff have distracted me. Just not in the mood to read when I'm so immersed in other obsessions, it's just the way my mind works.
But I like staying in Roland's world and having it still last and still some way to go before I have to leave it. Like John-Locke did by stopping reading deliberately so he could remain in The Dark Tower world, I guess I've ended up doing the same.
I read The Talisman before The Dark Tower. Like that book a lot. I was hoping we would spend more time in The Territories and the other existence of that place rather than so much time in America as we know it, but I still liked it a great deal. Time spent with Wolf was my fave part by far. Heard about it's sequel, not so sure about that, as it doesn't seem to relate to The Talisman a great deal.
Am I wrong?
Um, not to spoil it too much... Black House has the same main character (Jack), some of the same smaller characters and territory flipping. It isn't about saving his mom, it is about saving a town from a serial killer who can also flip. I rather liked it. It is a bit more graphic (some typical Stephen King murders and mob mayhem).
I actually like Black House better, and I absolutely love The Talisman.
travis-dane wrote:Fievel wrote:justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I was well on my way, but I've been very busy lately with sending my Tiger Shark movie to film festivals and stuff and other stuff have distracted me. Just not in the mood to read when I'm so immersed in other obsessions, it's just the way my mind works.
But I like staying in Roland's world and having it still last and still some way to go before I have to leave it. Like John-Locke did by stopping reading deliberately so he could remain in The Dark Tower world, I guess I've ended up doing the same.
I read The Talisman before The Dark Tower. Like that book a lot. I was hoping we would spend more time in The Territories and the other existence of that place rather than so much time in America as we know it, but I still liked it a great deal. Time spent with Wolf was my fave part by far. Heard about it's sequel, not so sure about that, as it doesn't seem to relate to The Talisman a great deal.
Am I wrong?
Um, not to spoil it too much... Black House has the same main character (Jack), some of the same smaller characters and territory flipping. It isn't about saving his mom, it is about saving a town from a serial killer who can also flip. I rather liked it. It is a bit more graphic (some typical Stephen King murders and mob mayhem).
I actually like Black House better, and I absolutely love The Talisman.
Black House is good. Maybe the best tie in to the Dark Tower books aside from Teds story in Atlantis.
justcheckin wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:I was well on my way, but I've been very busy lately with sending my Tiger Shark movie to film festivals and stuff and other stuff have distracted me. Just not in the mood to read when I'm so immersed in other obsessions, it's just the way my mind works.
But I like staying in Roland's world and having it still last and still some way to go before I have to leave it. Like John-Locke did by stopping reading deliberately so he could remain in The Dark Tower world, I guess I've ended up doing the same.
I read The Talisman before The Dark Tower. Like that book a lot. I was hoping we would spend more time in The Territories and the other existence of that place rather than so much time in America as we know it, but I still liked it a great deal. Time spent with Wolf was my fave part by far. Heard about it's sequel, not so sure about that, as it doesn't seem to relate to The Talisman a great deal.
Am I wrong?
Um, not to spoil it too much... Black House has the same main character (Jack), some of the same smaller characters and territory flipping. It isn't about saving his mom, it is about saving a town from a serial killer who can also flip. I rather liked it. It is a bit more graphic (some typical Stephen King murders and mob mayhem).
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:Think this song is a good way to sum up most of Wizard and Glass with Roland and Susan Delgado. Singer (Taylor Swift) even looks like Susan, no? Oooaah Stephen King, taking a romance and mixing it so cuttingly with horror. Some of the great stories are dark/horror love stories eh?
They say it's better to have love and lost, than not to have loved at all. I dunno, would you wanna be Roland Deschain onwards after what he went through in this tale?
Nachokoolaid wrote:I love how King is turning everything one it's head and is mixing all these different genres together- from horror, to love story, to sci-fi, to fantasy, and so on.
Fievel wrote:Nachokoolaid wrote:I love how King is turning everything one it's head and is mixing all these different genres together- from horror, to love story, to sci-fi, to fantasy, and so on.
That's probably my favorite aspect of the series.
Books 1-5 are so completely different from each other.
Nachokoolaid wrote:Oh, and I wanted to ask, King mentions that there is a Dark Tower reference in all his work. Is there a website or something that has each of these references chronicled in a user friendly place?
That would be awesome.
Nachokoolaid wrote:Just a quick thought. I think I sort of agree with Stephen King that I didn't necessarily love the ending, but it felt like the right one, in a way.
Fievel wrote:Nachokoolaid wrote:Just a quick thought. I think I sort of agree with Stephen King that I didn't necessarily love the ending, but it felt like the right one, in a way.
Just one more comparison between Lost and the Dark Tower series. You could have stopped with one aspect of the ending (Jack dying on the beach/"The man in black...")and thought "okay, that works." But then the other part of the ending happens (the Lost afterlife party/the three in NYC) and people are all "what the fuck!?!?". Granted they didn't happen in order on Lost so you could stop it and be content with the one aspect..... and they based half of the season on that premise.... ahhhh shit I'm not even making sense anymore.
Nice Marmot wrote:Holy crap am I late or what?
There's a friggin' REVISED edition of the Gunslinger? When did THAT come out? I was about to reread a flimsy, half-destroyed copy of the first paperback edition.
Are there revised editions of any of the other books?
And any news of a nice big boxed hardcover collection of the whole saga?
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