John-Locke wrote:Damn, I was looking forward to 'returning some videotapes' after we finally meet.
::shudder::
John-Locke wrote:Damn, I was looking forward to 'returning some videotapes' after we finally meet.
EWS wrote:MasterWhedon wrote:Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:Ooo are we starting a Huey Lewis and the News thread??!?
We can't. That would be breaking the rules. My Nazism dictates anything even remotely related to Back to the Future and/or cars that travel through time be folded into this thread.
And that's the Puh-puh-puh-power of Love.
Chairman Kaga wrote:Rock and Roll existed before Chuck Berry.....he isn't the sole inventor of R+R.
Lord Voldemoo wrote:But...KCBC...hoverboards....hoverboards are cool right?....hove......... . . . . . . . .
Chairman Kaga wrote:KCBC are you ZZS in disguise?
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Chairman Kaga wrote:KCBC are you ZZS in disguise?
have I pwned you yet?
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:the right wing dominated sk8ter industry!
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Chairman Kaga wrote:Rock and Roll existed before Chuck Berry.....he isn't the sole inventor of R+R.
wow, Kaga, thanks man!*
any more tips on the history of rock 'n roll you care to inform me of?
*note the sarcasm, and how you missed the riff on the blues (where rock n' roll comes from, dickwad) in my sadly ignored screenplay.
NEXT!
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:ah, the 80's, a glorious time, when a film geared towards teenagers could spout the vaguely racist folderol of a WHITE man going back in time and inventing rock 'n roll...not forgetting, of course, that good 'ol Mr. Marty is also the inspiration for the future Mayoral candidacy of a, get this, African-American! One shudders to imagine him a nascent black conservative Republican; after all, Fox played an obnoxious young Reaganite, one Alex P. Keaton, to perfection, and combining that salient fact with the supposition that Doc Brown, through his shady dealings with those damned Libyans (shades of Iran-Contra) is a Republican, that Marty's family could very well be Republican, well, I'm not going out on a limb here to call this film simply vile, right wing whitewashing of history and am appalled to see it remembered so fondly amongst my fellow Zoners...FOR SHAME! SHAME!!
havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Retardo_Montalban wrote:LITTLE RICHARD
havocSchultz wrote:and I'm not a racist...I hate all people...
Chairman Kaga wrote:havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Isn't that merely being accurate? What should Biff's white, racist friends call him an African American?
Chairman Kaga wrote:See Retardo knows the score.havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Isn't that merely being accurate? What should Biff's white, racist friends call him an African American?
Retardo_Montalban wrote:Back to the future is just good ol' timey fun.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Retardo_Montalban wrote:LITTLE RICHARD
never heard of him.*havocSchultz wrote:and I'm not a racist...I hate all people...
please, we all know Canadians are incapable of hatred...Chairman Kaga wrote:havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Isn't that merely being accurate? What should Biff's white, racist friends call him an African American?
*Little Richard was a "reefer head"...
havocSchultz wrote:Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Retardo_Montalban wrote:LITTLE RICHARD
never heard of him.*havocSchultz wrote:and I'm not a racist...I hate all people...
please, we all know Canadians are incapable of hatred...Chairman Kaga wrote:havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Isn't that merely being accurate? What should Biff's white, racist friends call him an African American?
*Little Richard was a "reefer head"...
I thought he was a spook...
KCBC on the other hand, is a reefer head...
havocSchultz wrote:Keepcoolbutcare wrote:Retardo_Montalban wrote:LITTLE RICHARD
never heard of him.*havocSchultz wrote:and I'm not a racist...I hate all people...
please, we all know Canadians are incapable of hatred...Chairman Kaga wrote:havocSchultz wrote:Plus, there's the scene at the dance, with the members of the band, where one of Biff's boys calls a band member a "spook" and a "reefer head"
Isn't that merely being accurate? What should Biff's white, racist friends call him an African American?
*Little Richard was a "reefer head"...
I thought he was a spook...
KCBC on the other hand, is a reefer head...
Chairman Kaga wrote:I thought he was still a Reffer Head....Just look at that Geico ad.
Keepcoolbutcare wrote:
who's easily spooked...
Retardo_Montalban wrote:I mean when I hear spook, I think ghost and what color are ghosts? White!
magicmonkey wrote:That takes me back to the halcyon days of sand pits and play dough, where the only chance of getting high was to sniff the glue that'd peel off your hands like dead skin.
Kids nowadays, huh.
Lady Sheridan wrote:Damn, and I thought I got flak for saying Curious George was symbolic of the slave trade.
TheBaxter wrote:OK, BTTF may or may not have been a right-wing racist screed, but no one .... NO ONE ... can deny the subtle but unmistakable commentary on homophobia that is embedded in that other classic Michael J Fox film of 1985 - TEEN WOLF. long before bryan singer would make Dumbledore pride a commonplace theme through the x-men film series, michael j fox was on the frontline for raising homophobia awareness.
released barely a month after BTTF, teen wolf uses the clever metaphor of a teenager discovering his true "wolf" nature to represent the difficulty of growing up Dumbledore in america, thereby flying under the radar of the conservative fundamentalist-christian homophobes of the era. MJF plays scott howard, an all-american boy growing up in typical small-town suburbia. he plays on the basketball team, he hangs out with a tomboy chick named "boof" and his best friend is named "styles". he lusts after the hottest girl in school because that's what is expected of him. the school jock-bully taunts him. he tires of the conformity, and laments how "average" he is.
then he begins to discover something changing inside him. he suddenly has urges he never felt before. when he tries to talk about the changes, with his coach, with his father, no one understands him. in an early scene, he is writing on the chalkboard in front of class when hair sprouts out all over his hands (an obvious reference to the old wives tale about masturbation causing hair to grow on your palms, given the stereotype that homosexuals masturbate constantly).
scott's friend boof (a play on the term 'poof', a slang term often applied to homosexuals; and played by a very tomboyish actress, because casting a real man would have been too much in ronald reagan's 80s) has a crush on him, and she tries to get scott to open up to her (him), but he's too busy trying to fit in (thus denying his burgeoning sexuality) by pursuing the school babe. later that night, scott and boof end up together in a closet playing "seven minutes in heaven", and when things get hot and heavy, scott loses control of his "wolfiness" and plays too rough with boof, freaking her (him) out. when the seven minutes are up, styles opens the door and boof rushes out, followed by scott... literally "coming out of the closet."
finally, one night at home, scott's true "wolf" nature overcomes him. when his father comes in to find out what's happening, scott opens the door to find out that his father, too, is a "wolf", thereby reinforcing the argument that homosexuality is a genetic trait, not a lifestyle voluntarily chosen. scott is a "wolf" because he was born that way. he has no choice.
scott goes to "styles" (a reference to the homosexual penchant for "stylishness" perhaps? see: queer eye for the straight guy) to try to tell him about his true nature as a "wolf." when scott tells him "i've got something to tell you about me. it's kind of hard..." styles's instant response is "are you a stick?" this shocking use of the most common slur applied to the Dumbledore community finally slaps us in the face and tells us, there's more going on here than just a silly comedy about a teenage werewolf. this is serious stuff! styles goes on to say "look, don't tell me you're a stick cos if you're a stick, i don't think i can handle it," demonstrating just how ingrained homophobia is in the american psyche. coincidentally, this scene takes place while styles is searching for his hidden stash of reefer... a stash which scott, using his newfound "wolf" abilities, is able to sniff out for him. a dig at the common stereotype that all homosexuals are reeferheads, perhaps?
as more and more of his schoolmates, teachers and friends discover scott's secret, we see the different reactions his "wolf" nature causes. the school babe suddenly is interested in him; she represents the efforts of straight christian society to lure him away from "sin" and back to their narrow standards of morality, even if she has to show him her tits to do so. styles' friend louis begins avoiding scott, obviously freaked out by the "wolf" in his midst. the vice principal has it out for him, representing society's repression of homosexuals. the school jock taunts him and threatens him with violence; it is clear that he represents those self-loathing Dumbledore men out there who can't admit to their own homosexuality.
scott's basketball team, who were supportive at first, slowly begin to become resentful of him, even though embracing his "wolf" nature has made scott a superstar player who has led them to the championships. is the thought of having to share a locker room with a "wolf" finally getting the best of them? are they, perhaps, afraid to go in the shower, lest they suddenly find a little "wolf hair" in their drain? scott simply cannot find acceptance anywhere.
when the big championship game finally comes around, the other players are so hateful of the "wolf" that they don't even want to play with him. the suffering he has had to endure has made scott doubt himself, and wonder if he even wants to be the "wolf" anymore. he finally gives in to their homophobia, and arrives to the game as the old scott, leaving the "wolf" behind. for a moment, we the audience wonder if the film's creators have betrayed the cause of homosexual rights, as we see the "reformed" scott lead his team to victory, seemingly telling us that by abandoning his "wolfishness" scott has found the path to redemption and happiness.
but NO!!!! the filmmakers are merely setting us up. after the victory celebration, as scott is leaving the gym floor, he seems to be heading straight for the arms of the school babe, who is waiting to give him his reward for "straightening out". but scott snubs her, and passes her by, ending up in the arms of his new she-male lover, boof. in his own way, scott is telling them all:
"TALK TO THE HAND, BITCH! I'M HERE, I'M QUEER, GET USED TO IT!!!"
TheButcher wrote:From SciFi Wire:
Revealed: The real-life drama behind Back to the Future
What we do know is that Glover was ultimately replaced by lookalike Jeffrey Weissman, who donned prosthetics and sunglasses to fool audiences into thinking Glover was again playing the role. Unamused by the stunt, Glover sued the producers and won a settlement, leading to a new set of rules for the Screen Actors Guild in regard to illicit use of actors.
I was meant to do both the second and third sequels. My mom got cancer, and was very ill, and there was too much turmoil at home. I backed out of the industry completely at the time. That’s why I wasn’t in the sequels.
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