The Great STAR WARS Discussion Thread

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

10 things you didn't know about The Empire Strikes Back

[so sorry]

10 things you didn't know about The Empire Strikes Back

Buffy! Fucking Lucas...its really a thing of wonder that those three movies turned out the way they did when you consider some of his earlier (and later with the prequels) hairbrained ideas and writing.

[Fried Gold]

10 things you didn't know about The Empire Strikes Back

I would like a refund, as I already knew about four of those things.

[Bayouwolf]

10 things you didn't know about The Empire Strikes Back

Buffy! Fucking Lucas...its really a thing of wonder that those three movies turned out the way they did when you consider some of his earlier (and later with the prequels) hairbrained ideas and writing.

It would be bigger news to hear that Joss Whedon was originally penning a Yoda the Vampire Slayer, and changed it up because the original name that Lucas came up with was cooler...

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

The Not-Shitty Star Wars Prequel That Never Happened

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

[TheButcher]

The Not-Shitty Star Wars Prequel That Never Happened

Thanks for the link!

[TheButcher]

From /film:
Did David Prowse Ruin ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ Two Years Before Release?

Industrial Light & Magic: Creating the Impossible

[Fievel]

From /film:
Did David Prowse Ruin ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ Two Years Before Release?

Industrial Light & Magic: Creating the Impossible

Wow. That's some serious shenanigans with Prowse there. What's even more interesting is the bit about what was actually in the script.

Got the DVR set on the ILM Documentary.

[TheButcher]

Harrison Ford: Han Solo 'should have died' in Return of the Jedi

[Fievel]

Harrison Ford: Han Solo 'should have died' in Return of the Jedi

"George [Lucas] didn't think there was any future in dead Han toys."

OH SNAP!!!!

[TheButcher]

From CBR:
What If Films Never End?

The second DVD release of Avatar hits shelves next week, bringing with it the third version of the movie (with an addition fourth on the disc, with edited-for-children language) in two years. With special editions, DVDs, director’s cuts and everything else available to allow filmmakers to revise their original visions in public, how much freedom is too much?

Before we get too far into things, I want to say that I’m actually kind of a fan of the idea of the “special edition” of any given movie, if it’s done well; there’s something to be said for the ability to go back and revisit stories after the fact and “fix” things that didn’t quite work out the first time – Given the rush that’s sometimes (often?) involved in moviemaking, it’s unsurprising that occasionally things don’t work out as well as might’ve been hoped the first time, and so letting the director (or whoever) go back and get a second chance…? Seems like a great idea to me.

For fans, too, there’s some excitement in seeing things that might’ve been cut for various reasons in the original release. The upcoming Avatar Special Edition Blu-Ray is a great example of that, offering the chance to see the movie’s original (and, in my opinion, better) opening, which gives a little more backstory to Jake’s life before he went to Pandora. And yet… and yet…

And yet, the upcoming Avatar release will be the third (and fourth, if you count the edited-for-language version that’ll be available on the disc) version of the movie. Blade Runner has gone through, what, five different versions in its history? The 3D versions of the Star Wars movies will be their second and third different editions, depending on which trilogy you’re asking about, and – well, I can’t be the only person who thinks that the first versions haven’t really been improved on that much by what followed. At some point, the ability to fix things or offer new material for fans became something else altogether – or two different somethings, perhaps – and that’s where the problem starts, for me.

You see, I feel like a lot of movies these days have two versions planned from the start. There’s the version that’s going to be released in theaters, and at the same time, there’s already a special edition cut planned for the home release, not because the movie needed “fixed” or because things were cut for time or whatever in the theater version, but purely because “added material never before seen in theaters” means that more people will shell out for the DVD or Blu-Ray. Or, worse yet, that the theater version will be released on DVD and then another DVD will be released with all the added scenes that were left off the first release because… well, I’m not entirely sure. Because they could feel confident in the geek-centric completist tendency pushing people towards buying it, perhaps (Hello, Watchmen and Avatar!)?

Where the ability to put new versions of existing movies out goes wrong for me isn’t really in any artistic decisions – Yes, even Han shooting first – but in the business decision of making each one its own thing, for full price, each time (This isn’t always the case, admittedly; Avatar‘s new edition has the original version, the cinema re-release and an even longer cut). The audience is asked to be paying for the filmmaker’s perfectionism, or studio’s original misjudgment, which seems… greedy? unfair? both? With the amount of information that a Blu-Ray can hold – and, also, its ability to link to live web content – there’s no reason that buying a Blu-Ray disc can’t offer multiple versions of any movie, even those that don’t even exist when the disc was first released. That way, for one price, the fan can get the full package, and the moviemaker can get to continue to work on their projects until they’re satisfied – or beyond, if that’s what takes their fancy. Who wouldn’t want a scenario where everyone can win?

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

Where Star Wars Got Its Pew-Pew

[Fievel]

Where Star Wars Got Its Pew-Pew

That book looks fascinating!

I knew the "pew pew" story from back in the OT days. We had wires like that in our yard and would try to recreate the sound.... never really worked, but you could kind of hear it.

[Fried Gold]

Where Star Wars Got Its Pew-Pew

That book looks fascinating!

I have it. And it is.

Although that to get a completely full appreciation of the sound effects work on the films you need to also watch all the featurettes on the DVDs.

[TheButcher]

From Hero Complex:
Did George Lucas change cinema with ‘Star Wars’ prequels?

GUEST ESSAY

George Lucas should have stopped after three original “Star Wars” films — that’s a common sentiment among Jedi fans of a certain age and disposition, and they passionately point to Jar Jar Binks, an over-reliance on CG effects and numbing dialogue as the unforgivable sins of the second live-action trilogy, which began with “The Phantom Menace” in 1999 and closed out with “Revenge of the Sith” in 2005. But are old-school fans missing the true value and actual innovation represented by the prequel trilogy? Yes, they are, says Kevin McLeod, who has made online games for productions in other media, including those for”A.I.: Artificial Intelligence” and the television show “Jericho.” Here, in a guest essay for Hero Complex, he makes a case for the idea that the prequel trilogy was in fact a landmark moment in cinema.

George Lucas pushed all of film into the 21st century when he made his “Star Wars” prequel trilogy. And like a magician, he used mirrors.

Remember that mirrors do not duplicate images — the way a copier does — they reverse them. Although mirroring has been around for a long time in art, Lucas took it much farther. His most basic mirror, the through-line of the trilogy, simply inverts the power structures of his original trilogy, reversing who discovers the flaws of those in power (in the original trilogy, it is the rebels; in the prequels, the Sith do it). And why would Lucas do this? Why would he sacrifice much of the excited feeling that audiences had in rooting for the “good” guys? He did it to show you that power does not align with good or evil, or with lightness or darkness, and that power itself can be evil. To shade his stories beyond black-and-white extremes, he uses colors and forms that, under his abilities, transform into patterns.

These patterns tell stories of which you likely are not aware. By reversing the story and focal points, he engages the audience in a search for patterns they normally would not be looking for and what they mean. And his primary target audiences are always kids and the youthful, whose minds are still flexible and whose brains are malleable and growing. Viewing motion, form and color above and beyond speech is fundamentally linked to cognition.

Welcome to the age of pattern recognition, better called pattern cognition, and it’s an age Lucas has been elemental in creating and reflecting. Still in its infancy, pattern cognition is one of the key tools of future media (including future languages). Appearing in 1977, “Star Wars” was an evolutionary leap in pattern cognition. Notably, the first film arrived alongside household Pong and arcade Space Invaders. Video games, like “Star Wars,” are rife with patterns and forms at war with one another. Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Charlie Chaplin, Stanley Kubrick and a few others have worked at the highest levels of pattern cognition, as have others — some of whom you’d expect and others you wouldn’t: John McTiernan, Quentin Tarantino, James Cameron and McG (who all offer pattern cognition with bullets).

Also notably, “The Matrix” (itself an evolutionary step in patterning) appeared the same year as “Phantom Menace.” Like many other viewers, I initially rejected ”Menace” as a simplification of “Return of the Jedi“; it seemed childish and chilling. Much later, as I began to consider certain very strange scenes in the new trilogy, I realized that they were all elements of a hidden story, adding up to a precise opposite of the original trilogy. This story is both satiric and visionary. As I mentioned above, for example, there’s an intentional self-assuredness to the heroes’ characters that the original trilogy lacked, which dulls them and subtracts a nuance we’re expecting. Characters you thought you would love you actually hate or dislike. Their sense of discovery too is gone; now it resides with the Sith, aiding their quest to topple the current order — not until later in the original-trilogy Empire’s cold efficiency do they lose this sense. This is what draws Anakin to the Sith: They make him run; they challenge him. I can’t possibly review or analyze the whole story here, but below are three examples of concepts that ingeniously appear solely in the imagery.

1) Gesture mirrors: “Star Wars: Episode IV” begins with a Blockade Runner that has obviously just escaped a blockade, and “Phantom Menace” begins with a (too) similar ship approaching a blockade, willingly entering it. Mirroring begins the trilogy. Even basic plot gestures are mirrored. Vader wants her alive; Sidious wants them dead. And subtly there is a doubling of doom; we meet the trilogy’s central conflict: hooded humans who want to kill one another within the film’s opening seconds (the Jedi and Sidious).

2) Character mirrors: “Phantom Menace” is saturated with strangely similar bipeds that are overt mirrors: Jar Jar Binks and the Droid Troopers present living versus mechanical beings that nevertheless have similar coloring, shape and form and are equally awkward; Lucas even introduces them in mirrored framings and movements, and ultimately they go to war with each other on a massive scale. Also, Obi-Wan and Darth Maul (under all the makeup) are dead ringers, as are Natalie Portman and Keira Knightley (also under the makeup), who alternate roles. There are even subtle mirroring devices: Upon meeting Trade Federationists, Portman wears a gemstone that behaves as their third eye. The “phantom menace” of the film is this mirroring — it’s everywhere. Some mirrors we don’t recognize, and some we do (or are shown). The height, of course, is the Sidious-Palpatine “mirror,” which the audience sees but the Jedi do not — they can’t see his mirror simply because they can’t recognize their own.

3) Location mirrors: In “Attack of the Clones,” the planet Kamino mirrors Bespin of the original trilogy. These planets have opposing color formats (gray versus colorful) yet each possesses an atmosphere made up primarily of moisture. Both are where the Slave I is encountered, and, as essentially the center of the trilogy, we see the Fetts, father and clone, play mirrored roles, the lure of Skywalker to Bespin and the lure of Obi-Wan to Kamino. And on both planets we have heroes — Luke and Obi-Wan — falling to near peril. The result of the lures also have similarly mirrored outcomes: Vader tells Luke the truth, and Dooku tells the truth to Obi-Wan. Both trilogies end by revealing what those truths mean.

Consider this: With all these mirrors, a form takes shape — it’s a sphere. It’s a mass that Lucas slowly animates into a behemoth. The prequel trilogy might accurately be called the hidden story of the Death Star since he animates large spheres of all kinds in reference to this weapon: the Federation Droid Control ship (a ring that surrounds a sphere means many of these ring a planet for its control), the Congress of the Republic, Coruscant as the planet that is one city. Consider the vast, curved landing bay of the Droid Control ship and Death Star’s trench as subtle mirrors of each other; Anakin even mirrors Luke’s last battle accomplishment when he destroys the Droid ship. Finally, even more wickedly, we see the water-opera sphere in “Revenge of the Sith,” which appears to be reenacting the last battle of the next film, while Palpatine explains Anakin’s origin without directly telling him. Look carefully and follow the patterns: Overall, there is a transforming flow of identities that take spherical form, a path from nature into the mechanical.

Now the whole enchilada: Since you have these basic examples, look around and you’ll see hundreds of these patterns between and within the trilogies. Want some more? OK: Two asteroid chases in the middle films, with Obi-Wan imitating the Millennium Falcon’s hiding style in “Empire”; the Jedi’s temple tower resembles the Emperor’s tower; Geonosis, hot and arid, is the exact opposite of Kamino, yet each planet is the source of the war’s troops. Still want more? Notice Luke is suspended upside down both in the beginning and the end in “Empire Strikes Back“; the Lars homestead entrance is a dead-on mirror of Artoo. Luke kneels while he gazes at a loop of Leia kneeling. Watch Luke duel the remote device in “Star Wars” wearing a type of helmet he also wears while destroying the Death Star; he duels both successfully in similar states of limited vision yet at wildly different scales. As Leia’s torture approaches, watch the TIE Fighter’s hexagonal wings wipe frames with the cell block’s hexagonal corridor. Check out the cantina scene in Star Wars: It is carefully rescaled as the holographic game played aboard the Falcon.

Now take a look and see for yourself. Not only are these patterns not random, but they also intentionally and artfully tell a story outside (and inside) the surface drama that unfolds among the protagonists. Lucas’ visual ingenuity is relentless; he offers us a strikingly revolutionary level of storytelling. I agree that no one can make you like films you simply don’t like, but look deeper and go back and watch a film you’ve actually never seen before. Welcome to the future, where George Lucas already is. Take a look around…

– Kevin McLeod

[TheBaxter]

c'mon people stop doing this. stop making lucas seem smarter than he is. just like lucas glommed onto the whole joseph campbell - the power of myth thing when people started pointing out vague similarities between the OT and the hero quest, and retroactively declared that he had preplanned the whole trilogy based on some kind of elemental human mythology, lucas will now take articles like this and pretend they were what he was actually thinking and doing all along, when the truth is that lucas's writing is so muddled that stuff like this never even crossed his mind. and in 10 years, we'll have 5-hour long documentaries in which lucas' 20 chins tell us about how he planned the whole prequel trilogy as a means to shape children's minds into all this pattern recognition gobbledygook and those grown up children will actually believe it, just like us grown up children believed it when he told us that all that mythical skywalker stuff in the OT was intentional too.

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Well in all contrast, the SW OT films were easier stores to tell than the Prequels. Kids in the playground could tell these stories. Simple fairy tales for simple minds.

The Prequels were far more complex and layered, full of political 2 faced disguised plots and an unhappy ending showing a fall of a hero to being the evil villain. Not easy stories to tell.

I think people who praise the OT and write off the PT too much need a bit more self examining of themselves before they do so to Lucas and his PT. Even Lucas looks down on his critics in many ways regarding this, and with good reason too.

People don't know what they like/dislike, or why they do. Let alone what they want. (coughIndy4pleaseI'manidiotcough!)

[Retardo_Montalban]

Awesome review.

http://www.redlettermedia.com/sith.html

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

That's Red Letter Media we're talking about here.

I saw the first part. I think the guy is way off on a lo of his criticisms. The conflicting moments of comedy and adult dark violence that he refers to in the space battle for one thing. There's nothing wrong with that in my books. He seems desperate to find other stuff to hate on too.

Secretly I think he really likes this film but is doing this all just for the money.

[Retardo_Montalban]

He sounds like a pederast. It's hilarious. He has a good point about the shitty dialogue and boring camera work. The humour in the Star Wars prequels is also total shit. Like Saturday morning cartoons level humour.

[Fried Gold]

The reviews themselves aren't all that great. But the way they are packaged and delivered are quite good.

The point about the shifting moments of tone in Episodes 1-3 is somewhat interesting. I happened to be watching the "making of" documentary about The Phantom Menace the other day - the main crew watch an early rough cut and then talk about it. Ben Burtt and the editor basically say "it seems like it goes from comedy to drama to action to comedy to happy too quickly...maybe you should change that". Lucas says "it's a bit too late to change that now" and Rick McCallum basically says "everyone agree with George because it's his vision". And Burtt and the editor kinda exchange a look or two.

...The Phantom Menace DVD is great for things like that.

[TheButcher]

STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA Blu-Ray Announcement This Thursday at Consumer Electronics Show

[Lord Voldemoo]

STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA Blu-Ray Announcement This Thursday at Consumer Electronics Show

I'll be curious to see what's on the list of extras. And of course I'll buy the damned thing. But I'll feel a little dirty. This will be like the 9th time I've purchased the OT in some fashion.

[King Of Nowhere]

STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA Blu-Ray Announcement This Thursday at Consumer Electronics Show

I'll be curious to see what's on the list of extras. And of course I'll buy the damned thing. But I'll feel a little dirty. This will be like the 9th time I've purchased the OT in some fashion.

What are the odds on 4:3 laserdisk rips of the OT being extras, or a code to redeem Yub Nub from the iTunes store?

On August 14, 2010, George Lucas announced that the Star Wars saga will be released as a Blu-ray box set in the Fall of 2011. The set will feature all six live-action Star Wars feature films, along with extensive special features. Lucas stated that "There's some really good material that will be included in there, more deleted scenes that you haven't seen yet." One of the deleted scenes featured will be an alternative introduction to Return of the Jedi

I find it amazing that they have all this old footage in usable condition, but don't have prints of the unaltered OT that they can transfer.
I wonder if the alternative Jedi intro is the one with Luke in the cave that never happened.

[MasterWhedon]

STAR WARS: THE COMPLETE SAGA Blu-Ray Announcement This Thursday at Consumer Electronics Show

I'll be curious to see what's on the list of extras. And of course I'll buy the damned thing. But I'll feel a little dirty. This will be like the 9th time I've purchased the OT in some fashion.

I hate to say it, but I've reverted into an "OT, untouched but restored" nut. I own the whole series on DVD and the only way--the ONLY way!--I'll ever upgrade is if they release un-fucked-around-with versions of the three that matter. Which will never happen.

[King Of Nowhere]

i think you mean

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Seriously. All of you. Ask yourself one question.

To watch Star Wars again, no matter how differently. Do I really NEED it? Don't I have better things to do? Do I not have better things to watch, like a new new film etc.? How many times have I seen Star Wars now? Isn't it a bit 'boring' whenever I watch it again? How much of a hypocrite am I when I slag off Lucas for doing this, ye I still sucker myself into watching his re-releases all the time?

[MasterWhedon]

Seriously. All of you. Ask yourself one question.

To watch Star Wars again, no matter how differently. Do I really NEED it? Don't I have better things to do? Do I not have better things to watch, like a new new film etc.? How many times have I seen Star Wars now? Isn't it a bit 'boring' whenever I watch it again? How much of a hypocrite am I when I slag off Lucas for doing this, ye I still sucker myself into watching his re-releases all the time?

That's more than one question.

[King Of Nowhere]

To watch Star Wars again, no matter how differently. Do I really NEED it?

I can survive without it, but it'd be nice

Don't I have better things to do?

Like sit on a messageboard all day telling people to watch better films than they have been watching, while not watching any good films myself?

Do I not have better things to watch, like a new new film etc.?

Nothing, January is a bad month for new releases.

How many times have I seen Star Wars now?

The untouched versions? maybe 5 times for each movie.

Isn't it a bit 'boring' whenever I watch it again?

No, because every time he alters them you get to play spot the difference, then go online & have a right good moan about it.

How much of a hypocrite am I when I slag off Lucas for doing this, ye I still sucker myself into watching his re-releases all the time?

I don't sucker myself into watching the re-releases all the time. I watched them twice on VHS when the box set first came out & that was it. I'll catch some of them if ITV put them on, but i can't watch them all the way through.

anything else?

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

Would you watch them everlastingly if one of these flipping DVDS actually showed ME in these scenes?

[Bloo]

I haven't purchased a copy of the OT since the VHS days. I'll contemplate this Blu Ray

[Cpt Kirks 2pay]

I haven't purchased a copy of the OT since the VHS days. I'll contemplate this Blu Ray

GREEN BOX!!!!!!

[Fievel]

My son scratched my OT DVDs to the point that they can't play anymore. That's going to be my main excuse to my wife for buying the box set. The real reason that I'll be buying it? Because it's for sale. George Lucas tattooed the word "Bitch" right above my ass years ago. Besides that, the DVDs don't look that great when upconverted to my TV.

[TheBaxter]

my main question is will these be available right away separately, or only as a box set? because i'd like to buy the 3 good ones and the one so-so one without having to also buy the two crappy ones.

[Fried Gold]

That Engadget story above isn't really news. Lucasfilm announced several times last year that the BD release was coming this year.

Would you watch them everlastingly if one of these flipping DVDS actually showed ME in these scenes?

I think you're in The Phantom Menace DVD extras.

my main question is will these be available right away separately, or only as a box set? because i'd like to buy the 3 good ones and the one so-so one without having to also buy the two crappy ones.

I doubt it - Lucasfilm has only mentioned "complete saga".

Seriously. All of you. Ask yourself one question.

To watch Star Wars again, no matter how differently. Do I really NEED it? Don't I have better things to do? Do I not have better things to watch, like a new new film etc.? How many times have I seen Star Wars now? Isn't it a bit 'boring' whenever I watch it again? How much of a hypocrite am I when I slag off Lucas for doing this, ye I still sucker myself into watching his re-releases all the time?

I have the DVDs. I'm fine with them, CGI additions and all. I can't see The Phantom Menace BD being any better than the excellent The Phantom Menace DVD.

Apart from the suggested "deleted scenes" from the original films, they more than likely won't contain anything majorly new.

[Fried Gold]

...and for those thinking of getting the films on BD:

Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray (9-disc Set includes all six films across 6 discs + 3 additional features discs) - $140
Star Wars: Prequel Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes I-III) - $70
Star Wars: Original Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes IV-VI) - $70

[TheBaxter]

yay. i can get the OT without those crappy prequels. eventually ROTS will be released as a separate disc, and i can wait a while to pick that one up if i have to.

[papalazeru]

I'm pulling myself apart here.

I want the OT box set on blu-ray, but will we get the Han shot first scenario?

Also, the whole idea that Lucas's Turkey neck will grow an extra inch with a substance so valuable that he can only produce it in his neck...and it's valuable.

I'm still waiting on the TX 1138 sequel. Lucas you suck!

[Fievel]

...and for those thinking of getting the films on BD:

Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray (9-disc Set includes all six films across 6 discs + 3 additional features discs) - $140
Star Wars: Prequel Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes I-III) - $70
Star Wars: Original Blu-ray Trilogy (3-disc set includes Episodes IV-VI) - $70

Those are just list prices.
Amazon has them available on pre-order for
Both - $90
Prequel - $45
Original - $45.

Here's the official trailer for the sets. And the trailer further confirms for me what I've thought throughout the prequels - Lucasfilm knows how to cut a trailer.

[papalazeru]

[quote="Fievel"Here's the official trailer for the sets. And the trailer further confirms for me what I've thought throughout the prequels - Lucasfilm knows how to cut a trailer.[/quote]

I am waiting to see a compilation set of Star Wars video's that don't have in the trailer, '...FOR THE FIRST TIME'.

Weak Lucas. You are no strong in the way of the honour.

[King Of Nowhere]

I'm pulling myself apart here.

I want the OT box set on blu-ray, but will we get the Han shot first scenario?

The last set of changes included them shooting at the same time, with Han still awkwardly bending about to dodge the beam.

[TheButcher]

From Collider:
1977 Making-Of Documentary for STAR WARS

[Spandau Belly]

Somebody bought me the OT on DVD as a gift like 10 years ago and I had actually just sold it because I never watch those movies and the DVDs took up a bunch of space on shelf. They're fine films and all, I just didn't grow up with them so I don't hold them in the same lore as most guys. I've seen the OT maybe 4 times in total over my life. I haven't watched any of the prequels since they were in cinemas.

So I might revisit this whole series again on bluray by borrowing them from my brother in law who will buy this whole series again for sure.

[Tyrone_Shoelaces]

Man-Sized LEGO Millenium Falcon Means Star Wars Is Landing At LEGOLAND

[Peven]

Man-Sized LEGO Millenium Falcon Means Star Wars Is Landing At LEGOLAND

how do you get a job making Star Wars shit out of LEGOS??? seriously.......because i need to know where to send my application

[so sorry]

Man-Sized LEGO Millenium Falcon Means Star Wars Is Landing At LEGOLAND

How on earth do those guys resist the urge to smash those creations?

I mean half the fun of building things with Legos is DESTROYING THEM after you've played with them for a little while. Right? Am I the only one who would create buildings and ships etc then throw them against the wall and step on them like Godzilla?

[Peven]

Man-Sized LEGO Millenium Falcon Means Star Wars Is Landing At LEGOLAND

How on earth do those guys resist the urge to smash those creations?

I mean half the fun of building things with Legos is DESTROYING THEM after you've played with them for a little while. Right? Am I the only one who would create buildings and ships etc then throw them against the wall and step on them like Godzilla?

why am i not surprised a republican would get more thrills out of destroying than creating.....jeebus what a Struggling Background Artist

[Bloo]

Man-Sized LEGO Millenium Falcon Means Star Wars Is Landing At LEGOLAND

How on earth do those guys resist the urge to smash those creations?

I mean half the fun of building things with Legos is DESTROYING THEM after you've played with them for a little while. Right? Am I the only one who would create buildings and ships etc then throw them against the wall and step on them like Godzilla?

why am i not surprised a republican would get more thrills out of destroying than creating.....jeebus what a Struggling Background Artist

we always rebuild them

[Peven]

sure, that is what you tell your mother....and then she is the one who always has to clean up your mess