DerLanghaarige wrote:Also most people still prefer DVDs over Blu Ray.
Fievel wrote:DerLanghaarige wrote:Also most people still prefer DVDs over Blu Ray.
Not those with BluRay players.
ufoclub1977 wrote:Are people still buying DVD's? I'm seeing DVD in the title of so many threads... I understand if it's not available... but then you can usually find an HD DVD rip.... lol
TonyWilson wrote:That definitely the case at the moment SS, but in 10 years I think major metropolitan areas, all cities and the majority of towns will be able to download a hi def movie in under an hour (and providing studios start putting extras in with the digital downloads) DVD's and Blu Ray discs will become rather old hat.
TonyWilson wrote:True but then that isn't most people. I can't wait to get a Blu Ray player and quality hdtv with surround sound of my own and I agree that most films look stunning but it's not the leap forward that DVD from video was
TonyWilson wrote:That definitely the case at the moment SS, but in 10 years I think major metropolitan areas, all cities and the majority of towns will be able to download a hi def movie in under an hour (and providing studios start putting extras in with the digital downloads) DVD's and Blu Ray discs will become rather old hat.
Fievel wrote:It isn't, but it is. I have seen far too many DVDs exposed for the shitty digital transfer they truly have when "upconverted" on my PS3 to my 55" HDTV. Now whether that's the fault of the original transfer/authoring, my PS3's upscaling abilities, or my TV, I don't know.
Fievel wrote:It isn't, but it is. I have seen far too many DVDs exposed for the shitty digital transfer they truly have when "upconverted" on my PS3 to my 55" HDTV. Now whether that's the fault of the original transfer/authoring, my PS3's upscaling abilities, or my TV, I don't know.
so sorry wrote:Time will surely kill the DVD market, but its not going to be in my generation (IMO).
King Of Nowhere wrote:It's not about shitty digital transfers (although some dvds do have them), it's just that dvds are in standard definition. Any sort of upscaling will be no match for an HD transfer.
It's a bit like ripping a tape to cd (or upconverting a 96kbps mp3 to 320kbps) The quality is only ever going to be as good as the original.
Fried Gold wrote:King Of Nowhere wrote:It's not about shitty digital transfers (although some dvds do have them), it's just that dvds are in standard definition. Any sort of upscaling will be no match for an HD transfer.
It's a bit like ripping a tape to cd (or upconverting a 96kbps mp3 to 320kbps) The quality is only ever going to be as good as the original.
Ah yes, it's a lot like "Star Trek: The Next Generation". In many ways it's superior but will never be as recognized as the original.
King Of Nowhere wrote:It's like a new pair of underwear.
At first it's constrictive, but after a while it becomes a part of you.
King Of Nowhere wrote:It's like a new pair of underwear.
At first it's constrictive, but after a while it becomes a part of you.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
TheBaxter wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
what the hell is an HMV?
TheBaxter wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
what the hell is an HMV?
Peven wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
people who illegally download movies aren't true film fans anyway, since as Bax points out even the quality of legit downloads sucks ass compared to dvd/blu-ray, and if you are a real fan of film you want to see things in the best quality possible the way the film-maker intended
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:TheBaxter wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
what the hell is an HMV?
You know fully well that it's a chain of DVD stores. Denying it like the Holocaust again. See, this is why such stores are losing business. Because people like you excuse these downloading crimes and their effects, to Hell.
TheBaxter wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:TheBaxter wrote:Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
what the hell is an HMV?
You know fully well that it's a chain of DVD stores. Denying it like the Holocaust again. See, this is why such stores are losing business. Because people like you excuse these downloading crimes and their effects, to Hell.
wait... there's a DVD store called Holocaust Movies & Video? that's a pretty insensitive name for a company, IMO. they probably deserve to go out of business.
minstrel wrote:King Of Nowhere wrote:It's like a new pair of underwear.
At first it's constrictive, but after a while it becomes a part of you.
I thought that was Iron Man's armor, not underwear. Remember he said "The suit and I are one."
Did anyone ever say that about their underwear? "My Y-front Fruit of the Loom briefs and I are one."
"My ridiculous-looking plaid boxers and I are one."
"My thong and I are one." (Though this can be corrected with surgery.)
Peven wrote:King Of Nowhere wrote:It's like a new pair of underwear.
At first it's constrictive, but after a while it becomes a part of you.
i'm thinking someone needs to change their underwear more often
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Saying stuff like that is like saying that the Holocaust never existed. I see Papalaz is quiet on this subject.
Cpt Kirks 2pay wrote:So... you deny that HMV going out of business has NOTHING to do with illegal downloading?
Fried Gold wrote:DVD players had the advantage of being compatible with pretty much any television set. Blu-Ray requires the consumer to buy all sorts of other kit, so the overhead prevents many people from upgrading.
Tyrone_Shoelaces wrote:Fried Gold wrote:DVD players had the advantage of being compatible with pretty much any television set. Blu-Ray requires the consumer to buy all sorts of other kit, so the overhead prevents many people from upgrading.
This is a misconception that manufacturers aren't trying to dispel. You can pull your DVD player out of your existing set-up and replace it with a Blu-ray player connected with the same cables. I would have no problem recommending to someone who needs to replace a DVD player to get the Blu-ray even if they don't have an HDTV. You can hook it up to your existing TV and it will still play your DVDs. Sure, Blu-ray through a composite cable on your old 20" TV isn't the same as on a 40" HD set with surround sound but you can do it.
Wiki wrote:UltraViolet is a cloud-based digital rights management system, developed by DECE LLC, a consortium including Sony, Adobe Systems, Cisco, HP, Microsoft, Neustar, Intel and 50 plus other members. [1][2][3] Apple and Disney do not support this format.[4]
UltraViolet would create an online virtual library for each user. This would be used to allow sharing with other UltraViolet users, and transferring media to, or playing media on, an UltraViolet enabled device. An internet connection would be required for this. All other uses are restricted so it will not be possible to use the format on devices that do not support the service. A pricing model has not been mentioned yet.[5]
DECE has announced that beta testing of UltraViolet will start in Fall 2010.
UV Official site wrote:UltraViolet Media
When you purchase UltraViolet media – as Blu-ray, DVD or Internet download – you get much more than just a single file or disc: You also get the enduring right to access your content on any UltraViolet device registered in your Household Account. You can also enjoy your UltraViolet entertainment via streaming through devices at home or on the go.
Where to Find UltraViolet Media
You’ll be able to find UltraViolet movies and TV shows as downloads from your favorite online stores, or access them via game consoles and smartphone or tablet apps. Offline, they’re available on Blu-rays or DVDs that come with UltraViolet from your favorite retailers. Get your media however you please, from the places you like to shop.
UltraViolet Household Account
All your UltraViolet content will be accessible online through your easily set up and managed free Household Account. It doesn’t require any credit card or other sensitive private information. Up to 6 family members – whether they’re around the house or out and about – can access your family media collection using customizable individual preferences. Your UltraViolet media collection is safe in one place, easily shared or filtered through parental controls. What could be easier or more convenient?
UltraViolet Devices
You’ll be able to download and play UltraViolet media on UltraViolet computers, tablets, game consoles, set top boxes, Blu-ray players, Internet TVs, smartphones and other mobile devices. A simple software upgrade may enable you to upgrade many devices you already own to be UltraViolet devices. Also, new devices are coming soon with UltraViolet capability pre-installed and ready-to-go: Watch for the UltraViolet logo when you shop. Remember, UltraViolet streaming access will allow you to use almost any type of device, so you can start right away.
justcheckin wrote:I have a Western Digital Media player and also my DVD system. I didn't buy into the blu ray/HD stuff because I saw the whole betamax/vhs thing happening and I just didn't want to waste the money. I think that my dvds play really nicely on my HD tv. Yes, there is a difference when you see the HD version of something but really, it doesn't matter that much in most films. I digitized my dvd collection and then sold them all on ebay. I don't download movies off the internet illegally and the movies that I have on my player were actually bought by myself at one time or other. I do have them backed up twice (once on the hard drive that plays on the media player and once on a backup hard drive). This takes up a lot less space in my living room.
One of the problems that I have had with iTunes is that I bought an HD movie and it does come with extras and formatted like a dvd when you play it through iTunes. The problem is that it comes with DRMs that don't allow you to put it or play it on anything but your iPod or your computer iTunes program. I can't extract the movie file and have my media player play it on my tv or even quicktime on my computer. iTunes has to be the controlling program. I looked into it and to extract the movie without the DRMs, I'd have to buy a program to remove them. The freeware available doesn't do that. I might as well buy the movie and rip the disk. I'm hoping that this changes in the future because I would like to not buy any more dvds. When people can buy a movie online and be able to output it on any player that they wish, then that is when DVDs will be on the way out. I'm not sure that there is a way to control pirating and have the technology move forward. I think this is what is holding back having everything digital on hard drives.
DerLanghaarige wrote:Also most people still prefer DVDs over Blu Ray.
ufoclub1977 wrote:DerLanghaarige wrote:Also most people still prefer DVDs over Blu Ray.
Didn't blu-ray sales now exceed DVD? Ah, no, not close yet, but they are increasing sales exponentially since the price has dropped (average of 30% movie sales now?). Even grocery stores now have blu-ray for sale! No one I know prefers a DVD to blu-ray! That's kind of like preferring VHS to DVD.
Here's the facts:
VHS = 333x480
Laserdisc = 425x480
DVD = 720x480
Blu-ray/HD cinema = 1920x1080
35mm film (what is projected in the movie theater) = organically more than blu-ray, but the perceived resolution is about the same.
Spandau Belly wrote:But DVD to bluray, the advantage isn't really as big to me. With a pan and scan version a dude was literally taken out of the shot and widescreen put him back in, then bluray just lets you count his eyebrow hairs. Big whoop.
ufoclub1977 wrote:Spandau Belly wrote:But DVD to bluray, the advantage isn't really as big to me. With a pan and scan version a dude was literally taken out of the shot and widescreen put him back in, then bluray just lets you count his eyebrow hairs. Big whoop.
There's finally a format that can look like what you see on the movie screen at the cinema... that's not a bid deal?
TheBaxter wrote:ufoclub1977 wrote:Spandau Belly wrote:But DVD to bluray, the advantage isn't really as big to me. With a pan and scan version a dude was literally taken out of the shot and widescreen put him back in, then bluray just lets you count his eyebrow hairs. Big whoop.
There's finally a format that can look like what you see on the movie screen at the cinema... that's not a bid deal?
not unless you have an actual movie screen at home. don't get me wrong, i love BR, i only buy BR, i only rent BR unless a movie is not available in BR, but i also recognize that in a lot of home setups, the actual difference in quality can be hard to perceive unless you have a really large screen or you sit very close to the TV.
ufoclub1977 wrote:Well regardless of people not being able to tell the difference (this is similar I think to people not being aware of the difference between stereo and mono if both are coming out of two speakers?), SD is going extinct. DVD will soon be the lone medium for SD resolution. Live tv, movies, shows, home videos shot by consumers... it will all be HD.
And seriously, I would challenge you to watch the same scene from Lord of the Rings movie on blu-ray and then DVD back to back.
ufoclub1977 wrote:SD is going extinct. DVD will soon be the lone medium for SD resolution. Live tv, movies, shows, home videos shot by consumers... it will all be HD.
ufoclub1977 wrote:And seriously, I would challenge you to watch the same scene from Lord of the Rings movie on blu-ray and then DVD back to back.
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