The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheButcher on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:07 pm

MarketSaw @ CinemaCon 2011:
Spoke With Cameron, Landau And Lucas At Luncheon - Prime Focus Update
George Lucas:
1. Theaters are here forever.
2. ILM worked with Prime Focus on converting EPISODE I.
3. 3D is like color. He compared 3D to color and digital to sound in that sound and digital has changed everything but color and 3D have improved it. We are at the same stage with digital as we were with celluloid in 1900.
4. EPISODE VII will be in 3D and holographic!!! (Tongue in cheek) - however, we all know that it is coming... :-)
5. The reason he is doing another re-release is simply because there is a new generation of kids out there that own the mvoies, play with the toys and recite the dialogue, yet they don't have their own modern release. This one in 3D is for them.


To add some further flavor to this post, I spoke with Bobby Jaffe with Prime Focus last night (and met him today along with his team) about their work on STAR WARS: EPISODE I.

Prime Focus was the sole 3rd party converter on this project and contrary to reports on other websites, the conversion is COMPLETELY done. ILM assisted of course. PF was doing 5 other movies concurrently with EPISODE I, yet completed the work in 16 to 18 weeks (not including 2 months of prep time with ILM and Lucasfilm). This is in contrast to the statement Cameron made today about the time it takes for a good conversion NOT being 6 to 8 weeks, but rather 6-8 months. Obviously 16-18 weeks is over double that smaller time period, but still makes you think if there was enough time to do it justice.

Bobby Jaffe assures me that there was enough time. They certainly have the manpower to accomplish it with 3000 total worldwide employees in LA, London and Mumbai, two thirds of which are in 3D conversion (the other third is in CG effects).

George Lucas himself took a very personal role in the conversion process as he reviewed the reels and progress made through ILM once shipped from Prime Focus.

So why should we be a little more confident about 3D conversions from Prime Focus after the CLASH OF THE TITANS debacle? Well for a number of reasons:
    1. Prime Focus' expertise has grown over the past 18 months. Katzenberg mentioned this as well as to how production costs have come down from $15m to $10 to make a 3D movie in his house.
    2. Much improved conversion technology. Of course no technology company is going to idly sit by and watch their tech go obsolete and so it is with Prime Focus as well.
    3. The Lucasfilm vote of confidence. This is what does it for me, just as it did when DWA endorsed Legend 3D for their conversion projects. Any company that George Lucas chooses to do business with has been vetted and vetted again in order to get the keys to their kingdom, STAR WARS.

Lastly I asked Bobby that if he could name just one scene in EPISODE I that looks the best in converted 3D. Of course he said what I was thinking he would say: The pod racing. Makes sense right? Can't wait to see this thing!!
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheButcher on Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:11 pm

‘Avatar’ Sequels To Arrive With Long-Awaited Higher Frame Rates; Cameron Eyes Brazil For Inspiration

And speaking of 3D, it appears Cameron has somewhat softened on his stance against post-conversion into 3D, with his buddy George Lucas revealing that to do it right, you need a lengthy amount of time. “We have been working on conversion (for roughly seven years). It’s not a technical problem, it’s a creative problem getting really talented creative people to work in 3D,” Lucas revealed. He also added, that you need deep, deep pockets to get it done.

“It is not cheap. It is not fast. If you want do it right, you can do it right,” he said, going on to say that the cost of converting the first “Star Wars” movie will actually exceed that film’s original budget. Guess we’ll see the result when that film hits theaters in its new 3D glory in 2015 (in case you forgot, Lucas is re-releasing his “Star Wars” films starting in 2012 with one per year coming in fancy pants three dimensions).
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheBaxter on Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:48 am

TheButcher wrote:MarketSaw @ CinemaCon 2011:
Spoke With Cameron, Landau And Lucas At Luncheon - Prime Focus Update
George Lucas:
1. Theaters are here until the world ends in 2012.
2. ILM worked with ...
3. 3D is like the shake-weight. He compared 3D to the shake-weight and digital to sound in that sound and digital has changed everything but the shake-weight and 3D were silly fads that briefly captured the imaginations of the public before being rejected as useless crap that doesn't work as advertised. We are at the same stage with digital as we were with celluloid in 1900.
4. EPISODE VII will be ...
5. The reason he is doing another re-release is simply because there is a new generation of kids out there that own the mvoies, play with the toys and recite the dialogue, yet they haven't given him all of their money yet. This one in 3D is for them.


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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheButcher on Mon May 16, 2011 4:01 am

Indiana Jones and the Adventures of Archeology

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Traveling ‘Indiana Jones’ Museum Exhibit Now In Montreal
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheButcher on Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:09 pm

From Screen Rant:
‘Captain America’ Director Joe Johnston On A Possible ‘Boba Fett’ Movie
Roth Cornet wrote:Towards the end of our conversation I asked Johnston if his former boss and mentor, George Lucas, had seen the Captain America. The director gave us this somewhat surprising and thoroughly intriguing response:

“You know if he wants to see it, I would show it to him. I’m trying to get George to make a feature based on Boba Fett.”
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Nice Marmot on Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:59 am

TheButcher wrote:From Screen Rant:
‘Captain America’ Director Joe Johnston On A Possible ‘Boba Fett’ Movie
Roth Cornet wrote:Towards the end of our conversation I asked Johnston if his former boss and mentor, George Lucas, had seen the Captain America. The director gave us this somewhat surprising and thoroughly intriguing response:

“You know if he wants to see it, I would show it to him. I’m trying to get George to make a feature based on Boba Fett.”


I'd be all for this, if they put a restraining order on Lucas. Would 100 yards do?
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby minstrel on Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:13 pm



Why waste all that time and money 3Ding a piece of crap? You'd think they would have 3Ded a decent film instead.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheBaxter on Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:47 pm

minstrel wrote:


Why waste all that time and money 3Ding a piece of crap? You'd think they would have 3Ded a decent film instead.


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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby SilentScream on Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:48 pm

Lucas fucked up his directing career BIG TIME with the Stars Wars saga. Yes, yes, yes, the films will live on, their historical status forever secure in the annals of cinema history etc etc. And, yes, that is more than most directors will achieve etc etc. And he's become a very, very wealthy man.
BUT..at what cost?
The whole bleedin' franchise has dominated/defined his career to an ad nauseum degree. It's strangled him, emasculated him, castrated him. He's been in a space time warp since 1977, the eternal sci-fi kid who never really moved on. He might well've had a directing career akin to Spielberg or Coppola. But instead he flogged and toiled at this Star Wars thing till both it and he were run into the ground.
Was it purely money that made him do this?
He could've offered so much more, I think.
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Re: Star Wars On Blu-ray

Postby TheButcher on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:14 pm

From /film:
The ‘Star Wars’ Films Have Been Changed Again On Blu-ray
Germain Lussier wrote:Most of us are aware that the entire Star Wars saga is going to be available on Blu-ray come September 16. We also know that the films on these discs will be the Special Editions, not the original versions, meaning Greedo still shoots first, Jabba still appears two films too early and a bunch of aliens still sing “Jedi Rocks.” However, with the films being updated for Blu-ray, The Digital Bits is reporting that several other, minor, changes have been made to the films creating yet another evolution of the saga. George Lucas‘ insistence to continually change these films directly results in the consumer’s proclivity to buying them, so is this really a surprise? Read about the good, and the bad, below.

The Digital Bits (via Ain’t It Cool) reported on the new discs. Head there to see some photos of what I’m talking about below. We’ll start with the good, then work into the – possibly – bad.

First up, the frame size on The Phantom Menace will be more complete than it was on previous releases. Meaning, where on your DVD you might not be able to see a character on the right of the frame, now you will. This is because transfer technology in 1999 wasn’t as good as it is now so, in 2011, they can transfer a more complete image. Plus, the images will be cleaned up, so no subtle ghosting around certain objects.

As for the original trilogy, many things that were wrong with the 2004 DVDs have been updated. Color timing is no longer an issue as all the lightsabers have been enhanced and made more uniform. Plus, several of the cute, quirky visual mistakes in the films have been changed. For example, you will no longer be able to see the puppeteers arm on the Wampa in Empire Strikes Back.

The audio has also been significantly improved with this release, particularly in A New Hope. Apparently there were issues with the back channels and some of the score was too low in the mix, but that’s all been corrected. In some cases, they even went back to the 1976 files to get the right sounds.
So far, that’s all positive. Cosmetic changes that, yes, might take a way from the gruff feel of the originals but, on a high end Blu-ray release, you can forgive. But that’s not all. Sit down for this one. Here’s a quote from the Digital Bits article:
Once again, George has apparently added a few new “surprises” into these films. I don’t know what they are and didn’t get to see any of them on Friday, but I was assured that there will be “new things to notice” when we watch the films. I think we can safely assume that one of them will be the new all-digital Yoda in Episode I. Way back when Episode III was released on DVD, ILM digital effects supervisor Pablo Helman confirmed to me that the puppet Yoda in Episode I was replaced with a digital version to better match his appearance in Episodes II and III. In fact, the Episode III DVD extras includes a clip of the Episode I digital Yoda. However, this Blu-ray set is really the first opportunity we’ll have to see it in full. What the other changes to these films may be, I have no idea, but I suspect there will be no lack of blog posts on this very subject within hours of the first discs becoming available to fans.

That’s a potentially frightening proposition, but I tend to agree the only major change would be a digital Yoda. And whatever, I’m not going to cry about that. He wouldn’t go any further, would he?

UPDATE: Bleeding Cool just published an article that basically refuting that statement. ILM specifically told them “no new material had created for the Blu-ray incarnations of the films.” Hmm. Article continues.
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Re: Star Wars On Blu-ray

Postby TheButcher on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:15 pm

From Bleeding Cool:
Actually, ILM Told Me The Star Wars Films On Blu-Ray Haven’t Been Altered
Brendon Connelly wrote:There’s a story going round that George Lucas has, once again, been making digital nips and tucks to his Star Wars saga. It started with Bill Hunt at the brilliant Digital Bits, who attended a preview session with the discs and, in his most impressively comprehensive report, said:
Once again, George has apparently added a few new “surprises” into these films. I don’t know what they are and didn’t get to see any of them on Friday, but I was assured that there will be “new things to notice” when we watch the films. I think we can safely assume that one of them will be the new all-digital Yoda in Episode I.

Oh.

Okay.

But…

When I was at Big Screen a week and a half ago, I got to sit down with ILM’s John Goodson and Bill George. While it’s possible that they were mistaken and not properly briefed, both Goodson and George told me that, actually, no new material had created for the Blu-ray incarnations of the films.

I specifically asked precisely this, and they specifically told me that, no, George had not been making more changes of this fashion. I asked clearly, and they gave me a clear – and apparently definitive – answer.

Messrs. Goodman and George acknowledged the work done to the soundtrack, the reframing and the colour correction, and even the recompositing of effects, but according to these guys, the Blu-ray versions will simply be polished, perfected transfers of what wasn’t done quite right on the 2004 DVDs.

Just in case, however, I’ve dropped a line to a few appropriate people and I’ll see if we can’t get an official statement. Always good where possible.

I’ve got lots more on the Star Wars Blu-ray sets coming in the next couple of weeks, including lots from the conversations I had with Star Wars alums at Big Screen, and also my impressions of the Blu-ray sound and image. Spoiler: from what I’ve seen so far, they’ve really gotten it right.
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Re: Star Wars On Blu-ray

Postby TheButcher on Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:21 pm

From The Digital Bits:

The 2011 Star Wars Saga Blu-rays - First Insights

Bill Hunt wrote:All right, so I wasn't really able to talk about this in advance, but some of you may have wondered why I posted the Friday update here on The Bits so early. The reason is this: I was fortunate enough to spend the morning Friday - along with about ten other members of the international media - at Lucasfilm's Letterman Digital Center compound at the Presidio in San Francisco. The reason, as you might expect, was to get a first-hand look at the upcoming Star Wars Saga Blu-ray Disc release (due in stores on 9/16). Throughout the morning, I was able to see and sample check discs from the set, to ask lots of questions and to learn more about the overall content and quality of the set. What I learned was... well, I think the best word to describe it is this: encouraging.

Now, before you all bombard me with questions, know I'm waiting for some of my technical questions to be answered in the next week or two, so I'll have an additional comments then. Also, there are some things I can't talk about related to this set for a couple more weeks yet, specifically the content of the deleted scenes. But I'll tell you this: I've been feeling somewhat ambivalent about this release up until now - as I'm sure have many of you longtime fans. As a result of this hands-on experience, however, I am more excited about this release than I was before.

I know that many of you have questions about the video and audio quality of these discs, as did I. So here's what I can tell you at the moment...

Obviously, the Prequel Trilogy is mastered directly from the original digital files - the actual final source masters that appeared in digital theatres around the world. However, I'm told that - particularly with Episode I - when the original DVD master was created from the source files, the state of the technology at that time meant that some of the image area was lost all around the frame. In other words, you weren't seeing the complete "film" image in the DVD master. Today's mastering technology corrects this, so you are now finally seeing the entire film image of Episode I on Blu-ray.

In addition, there are improvements in the image quality of the Prequel films on Blu-ray simply related to the improved "state of the art" of mastering from digital source material. In particular, since this is a new Blu-ray master from the original digital files, the unnecessary edge-enhancement and color-timing issues that plagued the previous Episode I DVD presentation should no longer be an issue.

Regarding the Original Trilogy films, I don't think it's quite accurate to say that these are simply the 2004 DVD masters recycled for Blu-ray. These films are NOT the 2004 versions. It would be more accurate to say that these are new 2011 Blu-ray versions. Let me be clear what I mean by that: It's accurate to say that these are probably built from the same negative scans that were done for the 2004 DVD release, at whatever resolution those were produced. (Note that I'm working to determine the exact resolution of the original digital masters of all the films - the resolution at which the restoration work for Blu-ray was done, and from which the final Blu-rays were mastered.) But I can tell you from first hand observation that many fixes and improvements have been made to these films. So what does that mean?

One of the biggest complaints people had about the Original Trilogy DVDs in particular was that the color timing was wildly uneven. As a result, lightsaber colors varied from shot to shot. Previously bright saber blades became dull. I'm told that all of this has been fixed. Particular attention was paid to properly correcting the color space throughout the films. And I'm told that not only have all the saber colors have been restored to their intended hue, their bright white "cores" have been restored as well.

In addition to these sorts of fixes, significant additional dirt removal has been done, more garbage matte lines have been cleaned up and other little "fixes" have been applied as well. Here's an example of one such fix done to Episode V. For years, fans have complained that in this shot of the Wampa attacking Luke's Tauntaun, you could see part of the puppeteer's arm because the costume didn't extend quite far enough...
Now, that's been fixed.

I'm told that little visual issues like these throughout the films have been addressed - a fairly extensive list. [Editor's Note: The so-called "Humdinger" glitch in Episode IV was also apparently fixed.] Meticulous attention has finally been paid to getting things right - attention that wasn't unfortunately applied to the 2004 DVD release, because there simply wasn't time in the release schedule. (Read: the job was rushed.)

One thing I should confirm for you at this point: The original theatrical versions of the Original Trilogy are not included on these discs. Personally, I never expected them to be. I know a lot of fans want them, but it's clear that Lucas has no intention of making them available at least for the foreseeable future. So for those of you hoping against hope they would be on here, best to start dealing with your disappointment now. I understand how you feel - don't kill the messenger.

On the audio front, you will be very pleased to know that most of the audio complaints fans had about these films on DVD - about particularly Episode IV - have been addressed and fixed for Blu-ray. For example, many of you will recall that in the 2004 Episode IV DVD release, the music in the rear channels of the 5.1 mix was often reversed. (Credit to Bits reader Neil S. Bulk who first brought that issue to our attention back in 2004.) You should all be very be pleased to know that that's no longer the case. Finally... fixed!

The Supervising Sound Editor on the Blu-rays for Skywalker Sound, Matthew Wood, gave us a pretty detailed demonstration of the new 6.1 DTS-HD MA uncompressed audio mixes on these Blu-rays. (For those wondering why 6.1 and not 7.1, Matt said that 6.1 was chosen because it builds nicely on the 5.1 EX mixing work that was done for the Prequel films.) The first scene he showed us was the beginning of the assault on the Death Star at the end of Episode IV. Now, I suspect he showed us this scene for exactly the thing I noticed immediately upon previewing it. Some of you may recall that on the 2004 DVD, when the X-Wings begin their dive down to the Death Star, the familiar John Williams trumpet fanfare was buried in the mix so you could barely hear it. No longer! The trumpets ring true in the Blu-ray mix loud and clear. When I heard this, I couldn't help thrusting my arms up in the air in a bit of happy relief. I then turned to Matt, who as it happens was standing right next to me, and saw him give a little smile and nod - he knew exactly what I was reacting to. When I leaned over to thank him for fixing it, his simple reply made me smile as well: "Trust me, I read the blogs too..."

Matt and his team have been very careful to ensure that these new 6.1 DTS-HD MA uncompressed audio mixes reproduce in exacting detail the sonic experience of these films we all know and remember, albeit with the added quality and clarity that the latest lossless mastering technology can provide. Matt reported that the 6.1 mixing process for Episodes V, VI and the Prequels was relatively straightforward, because all of the original audio stems and elements were readily available and were well catalogued. For Episode IV, however, "getting it exactly right" required a rather extensive forensic effort, as this material just wasn't cataloged with future surround remixes in mind. In many cases, Matt and his team went back to original analog tape recordings made in 1976 to get the best quality of all the required elements. As a result, it's fair to say that the surround mix for Episode IV was almost completely rebuilt from scratch, with Matt comparing his work to the original print master to ensure its creative accuracy. And at every step of the way, director George Lucas and original sound supervisor Ben Burtt were consulted to ensure that the mix reproduced as closely as possible their original intent for the film's sonic experience. In fact, Matt says he played the film's reels many times for George, in 15-20 second chucks, to get his feedback.

That's not to say that there aren't new little tweaks here and there, but rest assured they're very subtle. A few additional audio details were apparently "added" into the mix as well. I put added in quotes, because in many cases these elements - mostly very subtle background sound effects and voices - were recorded back in 1976-77 for the original film and were even used in the original audio mix, but because of the poor state of the art for movie soundtracks at the time, nobody's ever really heard these things before.

In the scenes Matt sampled for us, the clarity, resolution and staging of what heard was really quite impressive. I have to say, talking with Matt was enormously reassuring. He just clearly gets it. He knows these films, and he loves them as much as anyone. He knows all the complaints fans have had with the 2004 DVD release and he made sure to correct them - to get them right at long last.

Now, you'll recall that a little bit ago, I said these should probably be best considered new 2011 versions of these films, and not the 2004 DVD versions. All the fixes and corrections alone justify this in my opinion, but there's another reason too... and you can probably guess what it is: Once again, George has apparently added a few new "surprises" into these films. I don't know what they are and didn't get to see any of them on Friday, but I was assured that there will be "new things to notice" when we watch the films. I think we can safely assume that one of them will be the new all-digital Yoda in Episode I. Way back when Episode III was released on DVD, ILM digital effects supervisor Pablo Helman confirmed to me that the puppet Yoda in Episode I was replaced with a digital version to better match his appearance in Episodes II and III. In fact, the Episode III DVD extras includes a clip of the Episode I digital Yoda. However, this Blu-ray set is really the first opportunity we'll have to see it in full. What the other changes to these films may be, I have no idea, but I suspect there will be no lack of blog posts on this very subject within hours of the first discs becoming available to fans.

So the next obvious question is, how to the films look in HD based on what we say on Friday morning? The answer is very good indeed. Do they look better than the 2004 DVDs? Absolutely. Do they look better than recent 1080p HD cable and satellite broadcasts? Again, yes - not just for the fixes to problem A/V issues that have been done but also because of the added video and audio data rate afforded by the Blu-ray format, and the fact that each film comes on its own BD-50 disc. And don't forget that Episodes I, II and III should look fantastic simply for having been mastered directly from the digital production files.

On the other hand, will Episodes IV, V and VI look as good as more recent films that have had state-of-the-art negative scans of 4, 6 or even 8K resolution? No, probably not. It will obviously be easier to say for sure when the final product is in hand in a few weeks, and we all have some time to really go over it and live with it a bit. In any case, this is one of those issues over which personal opinions are going to vary widely. The takeaway here is this: These films will look notably better than they ever have before at home, on any home format, and most (if not all) of the A/V issues that have driven fans crazy over the years - particularly about the 2004 DVD release - should be fixed on these Blu-rays. [Editor's Note: My belief is that the 2004 DVD negative scans of the Original Trilogy were produced at 2K resolution, which would roughly match the production resolution of the Prequel Trilogy. We also believe that Lowry Digital was involved in the Blu-ray production effort. When and if we're able to officially confirm this information, we'll let you know.]

Now then, let's move on to the extras. Is it really worth getting the Complete Saga set just to get the three extras discs? For me at least, the answer here is clear: Absolutely. Yes... I've now seen many of the Original Trilogy deleted scenes. No... I can't tell you much about them (believe me, that drives me as crazy as it does you). But I was pretty surprised by them and in a good way. What I can tell you is that they are substantial - at least for the Original Trilogy. This isn't just dribs and drabs stuff - it includes long sequences. And they're extremely cool. Frankly, for me this is the real draw of the entire BD release. As you've seen in some of the teaser clips Lucasfilm has released, they're not pristine, but most of them are in HD - at least the Original Trilogy clips. And trust me, they're well worth seeing. It's stuff some of you have wanted to see in good quality since 1977, along with a few things fans may not have known even existed. [Editor's Note: The one other thing I'll say is that the Prequel Trilogy deleted scenes appear to be IN ADDITION to those that were included on the DVDs. So this seems to be all-new material for those films.]

The main extras are split over two Archives discs - one for the Original Trilogy and one for the Prequel Trilogy. On each, there's a main menu screen that allows you to select which film you want to delve into. Then each film section is divided into worlds - as it happens, the worlds that appear in that particular film. In each of these worlds, you'll find relevant Interviews, Collection content (a.k.a. rare Lucasfilm Archive material, like model turnarounds), Conceptual Art and the Deleted/Extended Scenes. There are dozens of model turnarounds, which allow you to view various ships, props and costumes in extremely high detail - frankly, much more than you ever saw in the actual films. Who knew the soles of an AT-AT's feet were so dirty? You can fly around these models from different angles, and look at various portions of each in close up. Then, nearly all of these turnarounds have additional newly-produced video material - including filmmaker/artist interviews and more - talking about that particular model and/or the scene in which it appeared. In the concept art sections, I'm told that over 400 pieces of rare, original production artwork from the likes of Ralphs McQuarrie, Joe Johnston and others can be found. And there are "over 40" deleted/extended scenes in the Saga set in all. Nearly all of these extras are in HD (save for select older material shot on analog video).

Then there's also the Documentaries disc that includes many new and vintage featurettes and documentaries. We've listed these before. [Editor's Note: We didn't look at any of this material on Friday - and frankly it's of less interest than the two Archives discs, which are where the real gems are to be found. Be advised that you may wish to hang on to your previous Star Wars DVDs - in addition to the new BDs - if you want to keep ALL the available extras, as many of the documentaries they offered are not contained in the Blu-ray Saga set. Lucasfilm's intention was to try to include as much all-new, not previously officially released material as possible rather than simply recycling previously released extras. Just so you know.] What's more, each film has two audio commentary tracks - the ones that were on the previous DVD release as well as an all-new commentary compiled from tons of vintage and archived interviews with the cast and crew. Finally, I'm assured that there are indeed a handful of "very fun" Easter eggs scattered throughout the set.

Speaking of the bonus content, Lucasfilm's Senior Director of Marketing, Kayleen Walters, noted that the company made an effort with this release to appeal to fans new and old. Vintage documentaries and deleted scenes were included to provide substantial value to longtime fans, giving them a worthwhile reason to upgrade to Blu-ray, while younger fans will appreciate the newly-created content on Star Wars spoofs and the like. Also, by providing three SKUs - the Complete Saga box with substantial extras, as well as the movie-only Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy sets (note that the movie discs do have the commentaries at least) - there's essentially an option for every level of fan.

By the way, legendary special effects pioneer and ILM Creative Director Dennis Muren, who was on hand to speak of the extras, said that the turnarounds "are like a time machine for me. As I watch them, all these memories come back." Muren, who participated along with many others in the newly-shot video material that accompanies the turnarounds, noted that fans who like to build replica models of Star Wars vehicles will really appreciate the high level of detail you get to see.

On a side note, I had the chance to ask Muren what he thought about the advance of CG for visual effects and if he missed working with physical models. He said that he did, but that the old way of doing things "hit a wall in the 1980s and 90s. We took those techniques as far as they could go." CG, he says, is really just another tool that extends what can be achieved. "The goal is does it look real?" I also asked him if he thought there were some things that just weren't possible even with CG, noting The Hulk as an example of a visual that's difficult to sell to audiences - a 10 foot tall green guy is just never going to look real. Dennis suggested that he didn't so much think it was impossible, just extremely hard. "You know, if you painted a real guy green and photographed him, you'd believe he was really there. Some things we just haven't quite gotten right yet." He also noted that one day, we'll see a completely convincing, all CG-created human character carry an entire movie... but that day is probably still many years off. "It'll happen eventually, but it's just very, very difficult." He added an interesting follow-up to that, revealing that a lot of big-name Hollywood actors had themselves digitally-scanned about ten years ago, thinking that by doing so, they could continue appearing in films looking young even as they aged... but that nothing has really come of it yet because the technology just isn't there yet. Fascinating.

In any case, we'll obviously have more to say about the Star Wars Saga Blu-ray release as we get closer to street date, and you can certainly expect our full, in-depth review in the weeks ahead. (No, we don't have the discs yet.)

I have to say, I'm very encouraged by what I've seen so far with regard to these Blu-rays, and by the answers I've gotten to the questions I've asked about them. Like many of you, the last few DVD releases of these films have always left me... wanting. It just always felt like they were rushed somehow, and that all too many little important quality details just were overlooked. But this Blu-ray set feels very different. Finally, it appears that these films may have gotten the attention they deserve on home video at long last - especially the Original Trilogy. In fact, I think this may be the first time since that 1994 Definitive Edition laserdisc box set that the films have been so carefully handled, and that so many of the fan irritant A/V problems have been properly addressed. So can I say that this Blu-ray box set represents the "ultimate" release of the films on disc, or that these films will look absolutely perfect? No. But I think it's now possible for me to believe that Lucasfilm may - just may - have finally done these films fairly proud on disc. We'll see.

Special thanks to Kayleen Walters, Chris Argyropoulos, Connie Wethington, Matthew Wood and Dennis Muren at Lucasfilm for their welcome invitation, their hospitality and their assistance.

The Star Wars Saga Blu-rays arrive in stores on September 16th, and can be pre-ordered from Amazon.com via the cover art links below. (As always, doing so though our links helps to support our work here at The Digital Bits - things like this very article you've just read - and we greatly appreciate it.)

Cheers!

[Editor's Note: Our friend Adam Gregorich at Home Theater Forum has also started posting his report on this event, so be sure to check it out!]

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Re: Star Wars On Blu-ray

Postby TheButcher on Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:52 pm

From /film:
Compare the New CGI Yoda in ‘The Phantom Menace’ With the Original Version
Russ Fischer wrote:We’re so far beyond the point where complaining about George Lucas making changes to Star Wars is actually an expression of surprise or outrage. It’s just a ritual. We expect him to change things around every time the films hit a new format, so much so that I think there would be more genuine surprise expressed if the saga hit Blu-ray and didn’t feature any new alterations.

Not to worry however, as the films are hitting Blu-ray soon and changes have indeed been made. Perhaps not as many as we thought might have been the case yesterday, but there is at least one big one: the version of Yoda puppeted by Frank Oz in The Phantom Menace has been replaced with a fully CGI character. You can see side by side clips of the old and new versions below.

This isn’t the first time we’ve seen CGI Yoda in The Phantom Menace, as the special edition DVD of Revenge of the Sith featured a 15-minute documentary called ‘The Chosen One’ in which this digital Yoda made his debut. Seen in that doc is a much shorter clip of this same scene, but this is a longer, better look. And for those who never saw that doc, it’s a good first taste of the digital version. I can’t say the new Yoda looks bad, but they really ditched a lot of the physical characteristics of the puppet.

CGI Yoda in Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (Blu-Ray Clip)
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Star Wars Blu-ray | Full Trailer


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Postby so sorry on Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:20 pm

TheButcher wrote:Star Wars Blu-ray | Full Trailer


Star Wars Blu-ray Teaser Trailer



Wow JAke Llyod got on the cover of this box set. That's some crazy shit.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Orcus on Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:04 am

So what is this Humdinger glitch of which they speak??
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Orcus wrote:So what is this Humdinger glitch of which they speak??

From The Original Trilogy Forums:

canofhumdingers wrote:Has anyone else noticed a glitch during the Death Star battle? It only lasts for one frame, so it's not really a big deal, but it's a band of data that looks kind of like color bars/test patterns towards the bottom of the frame. It's not actually at the bottom of the tv screen, but the bottom of the actual film image. Just curious if it's a problem with the project or just a corrupt bit of data in my copy of the files. I've burned two copies & both have the exact same glitch. Apologies for the crappy pics, I don't know how to make screenshots, so I just took pictures of my tv. But it at least lets you see what I'm talking about. (it's the shot of vader & co. zooming into the trench for the first time, chasing the y-wings)


'Humdinger' Analysis Thread

The 'Humdinger' glitch is a frame in the digital master of the Star Wars (A New Hope) Special Edition created specifically for the 2004 DVD release and every subsequent release to date.

The error was brought to the attention of the OT.com community in a post by user canofhumdingers:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic. ... Post509807


and has been named in his behalf. Harmy prooved that it was an item specific to the 2004 upgrade by comparing various sources.

How to spot: Vader and his tie-fighters have just entered the battle. Rebel Y-Wing Pilots in the Death Star trench notice the stopping of the gun towers and say 'three marks at two ten'. Scene cuts to Vader and two ties flying down to Death Star. ~1:45:40
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Postby Orcus on Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:47 am

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Postby TheButcher on Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:21 pm

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Postby TheButcher on Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:06 pm

Badass Digest UPDATE:
Lucas Added Vader Crying “Noooooo!” To RETURN OF THE JEDI
Devin Faraci wrote:UPDATE: I have received confirmation from a trusted source that this is all TRUE.

UPDATE 2: I have confirmed that a second audio change, embedded below, is also TRUE. Also, I’ve confirmed that the Ewoks now blink in Return of the Jedi.


Some review copies of the Star Wars Blu-rays have gone out to very select outlets (many of your favorite websites have been denied copies of the Blu by Lucasfilm), and a rumor has been tearing up the internet: among the tweaks George Lucas made to the Original Trilogy was adding Vader saying ‘Noooo!’ as the Emperor electrocutes Luke in Return of the Jedi.

It’s hard to believe this because Vader crying ‘Noooo!’ was one of the most widely derided aspects of Revenge of the Sith. It’s easy to believe because Lucas is so out of touch and loves the idea of on the nose symmetry between the two trilogies.

What is purported to be an audio recording of the scene has hit the web, and someone has timed it to the original scene in Jedi so that you can get a sense of how this supposedly works. I’ve embedded that below. It’s actually two ‘No’s, and it doesn’t sound exactly like the one from Sith, but similar.

Again, this could easily be a fake. If anyone reading this has access to the Star Wars Blus and can clear this up, get in contact.

And here is the new Krayt Dragon cry Ben Kenobi makes when scaring off the Sand People in Star Wars:
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Postby so sorry on Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:41 am

Bwahahahaha!!!! Lucas just can't fucking help himself, can he? These kinds of pointless changes actually is prohibitive for sales IMO. As a Star Wars fan (from back in the day), having the original trilogy on BluRay would naturally be something I'd want to have in my arsenal. But there's no way I'm getting them because of all these silly changes (and the other silly changes from the last round of raping). I'll have to check, but I'm not even sure my DVD box set from 5-7 years ago are untouched.

I guess we really will have to wait until he dies, and someone at LucasFilms takes over and undids all the unnecessarities.

But that ObiWan scream...holy shit that sounded funny!
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Bayouwolf on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:31 pm

I'm holding out for the Lucasfilm definitive huge platinum phallic edition that has a special attachment on the studded case that rapes you in every orifice as you watch the next level of changes that gets done and forces you to listen to the "All Lucas, All the time" commentary on why The Phantom Menace was such a better film than any of the original trilogy...






At least the blasters haven't been replaced with Walkie-Talkies...









yet...
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Al Shut on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:34 pm

At least the colour of the characters underwear didn't change



yet
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Postby Al Shut on Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:34 pm

or should that read 'hasn't been changed'?
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Postby Hermanator X on Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:25 pm

I think ewan mcgregor with some wrinkles drawn with a marker should be pasted over alec Guinness.
Or make grand moff tarkin a gungan.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby papalazeru on Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:18 am



Anyone up for CGI Ewok eyes?
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Postby TonyWilson on Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:43 am

Lucas hates his fans.
Hates them.

There's no way he couldn't know the sort of reaction the "Noooo" v/o would cause, he's the almighty George Lucas and any changes he makes are always for the better no matter what anybody else thinks. sure he might genuinely think adding this in would make the series more poetic but unless he's nearly autistic when it comes to reading other people's emotions there has to be a large part (probably the neck*) that gets some sadistic thrill from doing what in their eyes nearly ruins something they absolutely adore.














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Postby papalazeru on Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:53 am

George is surrounded by Yes men. Do you think he cares what the fans think?

He's releasing a box set with 1,2,3,4,5,6 Films of Star wars.

Now everyone knows that anyone who likes 4,5,6 dislikes 1,2,3 and kids who watch 1,2,3 don't like 4,5,6 because they are old.

George you fart nugget!
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Postby papalazeru on Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:03 am

What Simon Pegg said on Twitter

Always loved Vader's wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin's ghost. What a fucking shame.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby tapehead on Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:13 am

Purple fuckin' laser swords...
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby King Of Nowhere on Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:23 am

I'm not a huge fan of hit & run linking, but click here if you want to know why the original versions of the OT will never be released.

The CG eyelids on the ewoks puzzle me. Why tart them up if he's still gonna ditch Yub Nub?

All the "noooooooooooooooooooooooo" stuff does come down to yes men though. When he was trying to write The Star Wars back in the day he had Spielberg, Coppola & about five other people telling him when shit stunk (and it was rank). If you read up on the history, it's all quite weird. I actually wonder how Star Wars/A New Hope turned out so well in the first place. All the remixing for the bluray release happened on Lucas' dime, so it's not like he doesn't care about the movies & the fans, he's just never been that good of an ideas man.

If they're inserting old footage (or digitally creating something they never shot back in the day) you can expect Empire to be a lot lighter this time round. He seems quite bitter about letting someone else direct it, even though he said he'd like to make Episodes 1 & 12, letting other directors do an episode each. Later on he said the last 3 episodes were more like spin-offs & he dropped them, but we do have Caravan of Courage, The Battle for Endor & the Clone Wars animated movie...
It'd be nice to think he had all of it written out back in the day, or even just all the OT outlined, but he makes shit up as he goes along. He called the 1080p masters for the DVD release (a downgrade from the 2K masters made for the "Special Edition" release) his "definitive versions", the ones he wanted everyone to see & would've made if they had the technology back then.
I think the OT will come out twice on Bluray (the original versions wont though) & the version after that (on the next format) will be his real "Directors Cut" with CG landscapes replacing all the matte paintings & whatnot.

If you want the OT in HD, do yourselves a favour & download 1080p transfers of the laserdiscs instead.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheBaxter on Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:22 am

TonyWilson wrote:Lucas hates his fans.
Hates them.


i'm more and more convinced that this is true. it's the only explanation that makes any sense. i think, deep down somewhere, lucas hates star wars and the fans of star wars (lucas himself doesn't actually have any fans, or if he ever did, he's alienated them all by now.... most star wars fans hate lucas now, and this is exactly why). i think it's all some sadistic game by him, to basically push star wars fans' buttons and see how far he can go in pissing people off and still getting them to buy his shit. well, this one's the final straw for me. i was really looking forward to buying and seeing these films on blu-ray, but not anymore. ROTJ may not be the best SW film, but that moment, when vader turns away from the dark side and kills the emperor to save his son, that's the defining moment of the entire OT as far as i'm concerned, that's what all 3 films (ultimately, all 6 films) are leading up to, that moment of redemption. to ruin it with the single most horrible sound effect/line reading of the entire film series, it ruins the entire film, and hurts the entire series. i don't like greedo shooting first, or the pointless poo jokes, or a lot of the other things that have been added over the years, but they are fleeting moments that i could overlook, but this one change really undermines the entire series and i'm not watching that shit. i guess i'll just have to settle for the dvd versions from now on. i feel sorry for the people who pre-ordered this set, i'm glad i'm not one of them. fuck you george lucas.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Bob Samonkey on Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:07 pm

I dont really mind the pointless addition of blinking eyes to the ewoks, but the noooooo is just stupid. I have no idea what he was thinking with this and can only assume that Lucas has never been on the internet...
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Postby Al Shut on Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:14 pm

Man, you guys are lucky Lucas isn't like me. At this point I'd search the internet with a magnifying glass for every whiny, ridiculously over-the-top reaction, trying to find out what the fans think in order to find ways to piss them of more the next time.

I always loved how we needed to read Vader's emotions in his emotionless plastic mask. Lord Almighty give me a break.
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Hahaha.how did he get back there? It's absurd and hilarious seeing all of these tinkerings.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Nice Marmot on Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:00 pm

So when does he start messing around w/ Howard the Duck . . . ?
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Postby TheBaxter on Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:38 pm

Al Shut wrote:Man, you guys are lucky Lucas isn't like me. At this point I'd search the internet with a magnifying glass for every whiny, ridiculously over-the-top reaction, trying to find out what the fans think in order to find ways to piss them of more the next time.


actually, it seems like this is exactly what lucas has done.
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Postby Bob Samonkey on Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:51 pm

Nice Marmot wrote:So when does he start messing around w/ Howard the Duck . . . ?



About the time it comes out on Blu ray...?
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If you look closely, you can see Venom in R2's ocular orifice...
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Postby TheBaxter on Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:13 pm

Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
Nice Marmot wrote:So when does he start messing around w/ Howard the Duck . . . ?



About the time it comes out on Blu ray...?


Lucas has tinkered and toyed with Howard the Duck just as much as he has with Star Wars. but since nobody has purchased a copy of Howard the Duck since 1989, all the changes he has made to it have gone unnoticed.
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Bayouwolf wrote:If you look closely, you can see Venom in R2's ocular orifice...


if you look closely, you can see various parts of Lucas' anatomy in all of his fans' orifices.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Bloo on Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:58 pm

TheBaxter wrote:
Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
Nice Marmot wrote:So when does he start messing around w/ Howard the Duck . . . ?



About the time it comes out on Blu ray...?


Lucas has tinkered and toyed with Howard the Duck just as much as he has with Star Wars. but since nobody has purchased a copy of Howard the Duck since 1989, all the changes he has made to it have gone unnoticed.


So Lea Thompson isn't as hot as I remember?
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Fievel on Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:03 pm

Bloo wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:
Bob Poopflingius Maximus wrote:
Nice Marmot wrote:So when does he start messing around w/ Howard the Duck . . . ?



About the time it comes out on Blu ray...?


Lucas has tinkered and toyed with Howard the Duck just as much as he has with Star Wars. but since nobody has purchased a copy of Howard the Duck since 1989, all the changes he has made to it have gone unnoticed.


So Lea Thompson isn't as hot as I remember?


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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheBaxter on Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:10 pm

i can't wait for the chinese bootlegs of the ROTJ BRs to come out in a special "DO NOT WANT" version.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby TheBaxter on Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:58 pm

in related news, George Lucas has announced that he plans to use the billions and billions of dollars he makes on the star wars blu-ray set to buy TCM, renamed as Lucas Classic Movies, and the rights to several classic films that he would like to "improve". we will then be treated to many more new and improved versions of classic film scenes, including:

- in the Lucas version of Fellowship of the Ring, when Gandalf tells the Balrog "you shall not pass!" a new overdub will have the Balrog replying "i will TOO pass!"

- in the Lucas version of Citizen Kane, the film will begin with the words "Rosebud.... my old sled Rosebud" as the snowglobe falls from Charles Foster Kane's hand.

- in the Lucas version of Raiders of the Lost Ark, after Indy pulls out his gun and shoots the sword-twirling arab guy, he turns around and Harrison Ford's dubbed in voice will say "that's what you get for bringing a knife to a gun fight"

- in the Lucas version of Psycho, Norman Bates screams "Die bitch die!" over and over while stabbing Marion Crane in the shower.

- in the Lucas version of 2001: A Space Odyssey, all the spaceships make cool sounds now.

- in the Lucas version of The Sixth Sense, when Haley Joel Osment tells Bruce Willis what his secret is, he tells him, "i see dead people.... like you"
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby DennisMM on Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:55 pm

I think this proves that George Lucas is not a filmmaker; he's a Star Wars maker and mogul. If he were a filmmaker, he'd make other kinds of films. If he were a half-passable mogul, he'd at least admit that he tinkers with his movies not because he thinks they are better for the changes, but because it makes him clap and dance around happily to see the "improvements." The man has directed six movies in forty years, and three of them are crap. One of them barely walks the line of true competence, bordering on silly foolishness. One of them is intriguing but dull. That leaves American Graffiti. Where did that George Lucas go?
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby John-Locke on Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:18 pm

DennisMM wrote:Where did that George Lucas go?


Up his own arse
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby Fievel on Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:42 pm

John-Locke wrote:
DennisMM wrote:Where did that George Lucas go?


Up his own arse


You would think it would be a little cramped with Rick McCallum living in there, but it really isn't.
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Re: The Future of Star Wars, Indiana Jones & Beyond

Postby so sorry on Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:54 am

Fievel wrote:
John-Locke wrote:
DennisMM wrote:Where did that George Lucas go?


Up his own arse


You would think it would be a little cramped with Rick McCallum living in there, but it really isn't.



He's got a finished basement so its cool.
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