Ian Freer wrote:THE FUTURE OF MOVIES
DOES THE RISE OF PERFORMANCE CAPTURE - AS SEEN IN AVATAR, BEOWULF AND THE FORTHCOMING TINTÍN - SPELL THE DEATH OFTHE PERFORMANCE? IS CINEMA NOW ONE BIG CG EFFECT? EMPIRE GOT THE THREE BIGGEST PATRONS OF THIS REVOLUTION - TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM - TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
"WE HAVE A RULE IN THIS OFFICE," SAYS STEVEN SPIELBERG, USHERING JAMES CAMERON AND ROBERT ZEMECKIS TO TAKE SEATS NEXT TO "WE SIT THE BOX-OFFICE CHAMPION the middle. Uns used to be my seat. It's not anymore." "It won't be long before it's your seat again," replies Cameron, taking his position between the other two at a round table. If you combined the earnings of the top five highestgrossing movies of the three filmmakers now sitting across from Empire, it would be somewhere in the region of $10.9 billion.
The reason for this summit meeting taking place in Amblin Entertainment's Games Room - the haven for Spielberg's video-games in the '80s - is a Hollywood hot-button topic: the rise of performance capture. As you probably know, performance capture is The Artform Formerly Known As Motion Capture, the digital filmmaking system that Zemeckis pioneered with The Polar Express, Beowulf and A Christmas Carol, Cameron put above the with Avatar, and Spielberg has embraced for the first time with The Adventures Of Tintin: The Secret Of The Unicorn, out winter 2011.
If motion capture merely records the movement of actors in skintight bodysuits with reflective markers tracked by fixed cameras, then performance capture goes the extra mile, utilising more cameras and a specialised head rig that captures each emotion on the actor's face and eyes. This camera data is fed into a computer that creates a 3D replica of the actor's every nuance, allowing the filmmaker to then add his camera moves digitally.
The controversy has come mostly with the adverse reaction of the acting community, thesps such as Sandra Bullock, Jeremy Renner and Robert De Niro querying the validity of performance capture as an actor's medium, i think it's a bit faddish," said Morgan Freeman. "Because it's really cartoons. If I could look into your eyes and see a completely different person, that's what I want." The technology provokes questions (will actors be redundant? Is it acting, animation or some new hybrid?) about both the future of filmmaking and acting. And who better to answer them than three filmmakers who have surfed the bleeding edge of moviemaking for 35 years...
Hey folks, H arry here - I'm one of those odd birds that likes the hell out of RADIOLAND MURDERS - I love classic radio, and Christopher Lloyd as the Sound Engineer was like genius. That film was directed for George Lucas, by Mel Smith - a crazy talented gentleman that needs to make more movies. Anyway, he was apparently chatting with the DAILY MAIL in the UK and dropped a fairly awesome bomb of info about George Lucas and his latest obsession of buying up the film rights to Dead Movie Stars, with the notion to make something with them - and a digital resurrection process, that probably avoids the natural curses regarding disturbing the dead.
I've not been privy to any of Uncle George's plans, but I've seen some amazing things done with classic movie stars by a few talented filmmakers, in terms of tests that pretty much told me, this is definitely going to become a reality for us movie-goers. That's the danger of incredibly powerful visual effects... you can do anything - and in the hands of a cinephile like George, it opens an Ark that promises untold fortunes... Just remember to shut your eyes! Heh.
Actually, I'm crazy curious about this. How about you?Found this in today's UK Daily Mail
Click here for the whole story
Mel Smith on George Lucas:
"He’s been buying up the film rights to dead movie stars in the hope of using computer trickery to put them all together in a movie, so you’d have Orson Welles and Barbara Stanwyck appear alongside today’s stars.’ Whether Lucas’ attempt to superimpose the golden-era stars on to today’s screens is doomed to failure or not, Smith will be too busy to be part of it.
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Nachokoolaid wrote:I'll be honest, as long as the families are complicit, I'll actually a huge supporter of this concept, as long as the execution isn't shoddy.
ROBERTA SMITH wrote:When Andy Kaufman, the entertainer, so-called anti-comic and Elvis impersonator extraordinaire, died in 1984 at 35, he left behind two very distinct if connected personas.
The better known is Andy Kaufman, the television star who provided some of the funniest moments on the popular sitcom “Taxi” in the guise of the loopy auto mechanic Latka Gravas, he of the high-pitched voice, unidentifiable accent and alternate sense of reality. As Latka, Kaufman appeared on all five seasons of “Taxi” (1978 to 1983); it brought him fame, financial independence and a television special. (This was stipulated in his first contract.) But Kaufman didn’t like the sitcom format and agreed to stay on the show only when the writers allowed Latka to develop multiple-personality disorder so he could play other characters.
The second persona is Andy Kaufman, the stand-up innovator, politically incorrect satirist and cult figure revered by comedians and artists alike — an artist in his own right. This Kaufman, who had been obsessed since childhood with professional wrestling, invited women to wrestle with him onstage, to the outrage of many feminists. He behaved unpredictably on talk shows, often leaving his hosts semi-flummoxed. He led perplexed audiences in grade-school-like singalongs and once invited the audience members at the Improv in New York to touch a cyst on his neck, albeit only after they washed their hands. Following his ineffably odd evening “Andy Kaufman Plays Carnegie Hall,” he took the entire audience for milk and cookies.
If audiences became disgruntled by his failure to amuse, he might burst into tears, his cries and shrieks becoming increasingly incoherent and rhythmic until he suddenly started expertly accompanying his vocals on conga drums. He often seemed like a straight man with no partner. His ineffective jokes and weird stunts are seen as an offshoot of Conceptual art, performance art and the interactive strategies of relational aesthetics.
The second Kaufman is the subject of “On Creating Reality, by Andy Kaufman,” an engrossing, idiosyncratic exhibition at the Maccarone gallery in the West Village. Latka is nowhere in sight. The show has been organized by the artist Jonathan Berger, who makes the relational aesthetics reference in the news release.
Also according to the news release, Mr. Berger collaborated with the estate of Andy Kaufman; Lynne Margulies, Kaufman’s companion; Bob Zmuda, Kaufman’s frequent partner in crime (he usually refereed the wrestling bouts); and Tony Clifton, a repulsive lounge singer whose existence remains wrapped in ambiguity. (Thought to be a Kaufman creation based on a real person, he was impersonated by Kaufman; his brother, Michael Kaufman; and Mr. Zmuda during Kaufman’s lifetime and has made periodic appearances since Kaufman’s death, including at the after-party of the opening at Maccarone.) And in a brilliant stroke, Mr. Berger has made the show deliberately interactive — relational — in a way that feels like a curatorial invention.
It comes in two parts, set in separate spaces: Kaufman’s stuff and his art. The main gallery at Maccarone is arrayed with 17 white vitrines with hairpin legs evoking 1950s Long Island, where Kaufman grew up. They display a fascinating range of ephemera and personal effects: letters, childhood poetry, scripts, unpublished novels, press clippings and photographs, tour schedules, props and costumes.
In a sense this material forms a study in young, self-aware ambition, a portrait of an artist operating from a personal inner reality, in place since childhood, striving to create a larger reality that conforms to it. The envelope containing Kaufman’s 11th-grade report card is scrawled with an unusual note from a teacher: “I just don’t know Andy.”
Two vitrines contain his collections of 45s and LPs; another is piled with letters from women, some denouncing his “intergender wrestling” contests, others threatening him and still others hoping to participate. Kaufman’s involvement with Transcendental Meditation is covered; the prosthetics and jacket that he and Mr. Zmuda used when impersonating Tony Clifton are displayed. Also here: a letter Kaufman wrote to Elvis Presley in 1969, in which he says that he is studying “to be a famous TV personality” and describes Presley as “out of sight — not just in surface, but in depth.” Kaufman’s rhinestone-studded, satin-lined, high-collared “Elvis” shirt shares a vitrine with the sports jacket and rip-off shirt and tie that Foreign Man, the inept, squeaky-voiced comic precursor to Latka, would shed as he morphed into the smoky-voiced, swivel-hipped Elvis.
The rapidity of Kaufman’s rise is summed up with an immaculate yellow Post-it from around 1975, on which is written the name and phone number of the NBC executive Dick Ebersol , and the words “call collect.” Mr. Ebersol subsequently became disenchanted with Kaufman; it was in 1982, during Mr. Ebersol’s year as stand-in producer of “Saturday Night Live,” that Kaufman was voted off the show in an unusual viewer poll; it was a serious blow to his career and his ego.
While every item on view is carefully numbered, there are no labels. Instead, you get a form of oral history that may, like Kaufman’s performances, make you slightly uncomfortable. Mr. Berger has arranged for a Kaufman colleague, friend or relative to be present each day to answer questions and reminisce.
These guests, who are not announced ahead of time, include Mr. Zmuda, Tony Clifton, Michael Kaufman and Carol Kaufman-Kerman (the artist’s sister) and his biographer Bill Zehme. A round table and several chairs, not unlike the set of a television talk show, encourage interaction, which is essential to a full experience of the show.
In Maccarone’s new project space, you can view Kaufman’s art and see some of the costumes and props from the vitrines in use. Mainly you will see the unorthodox, versatile talent behind it all. The video segments include appearances at the Improv in New York and on David Letterman’s and Johnny Carson’s shows; an interview with one of the Tony Cliftons as well as skits from “The Andy Kaufman Special” and “Andy Kaufman Plays Carnegie Hall.” In an appearance on Dinah Shore’s show, he sits at the piano delivering a childish song, while Marvin Hamlisch, Sammy Davis Jr. and Bob Hope look on, more or less cringing.
Concurrent with the Maccarone show, “Andy Kaufman’s 99cent Tour,” 10 evenings of screenings and discussions, will be held at Participant Inc. on East Houston Street, starting on Tuesday. Organized by Mr. Berger and Lia Gangitano, the director of this alternative space, it will present Kaufman’s television special and the Carnegie Hall evening in their entirety; show some Kaufman family movies; and delve into his record collection and his interest in professional wrestling.
Each evening will be overseen by some of the same aficionados appearing at Maccarone, as well as the artists Dan Graham, Mike Smith and David Robbins (Mr. Robbins will appear in a video introduction). The Participant news release features a photograph that should have been at Maccarone: it shows a teenage Kaufman, honing his Elvis impersonation at the birthday party of a 5-year-old named Jeff Citrin, around 1964.
“Creating Reality, by Andy Kaufman” is on view through Feb. 23 at Maccarone, 630 Greenwich Street, at Morton Street, West Village; (212) 431-4977, maccarone.net. “Andy Kaufman’s 99cent Tour” will start on Tuesday and run through Feb. 24 at Participant Inc., 253 East Houston Street, between Norfolk and Suffolk Streets, Lower East Side; (212) 254-4334, participantinc.org.
This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:
Correction: February 14, 2013
An art review on Saturday about “Creating Reality, by Andy Kaufman” at the Maccarone gallery and “Andy Kaufman’s 99cent Tour” at Participant Inc., both in Manhattan, misspelled the surname of Kaufman’s biographer, who will be one of the guests at Maccarone answering questions and reminiscing. He is Bill Zehme, not Zheme. The review also referred imprecisely to the appearance of the artist David Robbins at a screening at Participant Inc. He will appear in a video introduction, not in person.
TheBaxter wrote:one thing's for sure -- Michael Kaufman is no Andy Kaufman
or Bob Zmuda, for that matter.
Fievel wrote:TheBaxter wrote:one thing's for sure -- Michael Kaufman is no Andy Kaufman
or Bob Zmuda, for that matter.
It worked for three days.... in the internet/cell phone age...... I say good for them! Seriously! The Kaufman-style pranks are just that difficult to pull off today. No one can keep their mouth shut, everyone has a cell phone...... it just can't go as smoothly as it did back in the day.
Seth Abramovitch wrote:The comedian's brother, Michael Kaufman, appeared on CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper on Thursday, where he told host Jake Tapper that he believes he is the victim of a hoax meant to trick him into believing that Andy is still alive and father to a 24-year-old woman.
"I believe I am part of the hoax," Kaufman said. "I don't believe that [the woman claiming to be his daughter] is acting on her own, though."
Kaufman flatly denied a report on The Smoking Gun that says he hired an actress named Alexandra Tatarsky to play the role of the Taxi star's 24-year-old daughter, allegedly born five years after Andy's official cancer-related death in 1985. The woman took the stage at a New York comedy club on Monday, claiming Andy is her father and is still alive.
The interview comes after 24 hours of swirling speculation and conspiracy theorizing over the staggering allegations that the comedian, who in life was famous for staging elaborate pranks, might have faked his death and burial. Similar rumors have surfaced repeatedly since Kaufman's death, and numerous websites have sprung up offering evidence of his existence. The out-there comedian would be 64 if he were alive today.
Earlier on Thursday, Michael Kaufman spoke to THR, saying he was "misquoted" in media coverage and that he never fully believed the story.
Elizabeth Snyder wrote:The future of films
When asked if movies will ever get to be so digital they don’t need human actors, Rygiel is quick to refute the notion.
“We will always need actors. The thing about an actor is, his soul is the character. When I worked with Andy Serkis (who created the computer-generated character Gollum in the “Lord of the Rings” movies), he was the brain and the soul of that character. You will always need people.”
DAVE ITZKOFF wrote:Tarkin presented considerably greater difficulties, but the filmmakers said it would be just as hard to omit him from a narrative that prominently features the fearsome Death Star — the battle station he refuses to evacuate amid the rebels’ all-out assault in “Star Wars.”
“If he’s not in the movie, we’re going to have to explain why he’s not in the movie,” said Kiri Hart, a Lucasfilm story development executive and “Rogue One” co-producer. “This is kind of his thing.”
For principal photography, the filmmakers cast the English actor Guy Henry (“Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows”), who has a build and stature like Cushing’s and could speak in a similar manner.
Throughout filming, Mr. Henry wore motion-capture materials on his head, so that his face could be replaced with a digital re-creation of Cushing’s piercing visage.
Mr. Knoll described the process as “a super high-tech and labor-intensive version of doing makeup.”
“We’re transforming the actor’s appearance to look like another character, but just using digital technology,” he said.
Lucasfilm and Industrial Light & Magic said their re-creation of Cushing was done with the approval of the actor’s estate. But the technique has drawn criticism from viewers and writers. The Huffington Post called it “a giant breach of respect for the dead,” and The Guardian said it worked “remarkably well” but nonetheless described it as “a digital indignity.”
Mr. Knoll said he and his colleagues were aware of the “slippery slope argument,” that their simulated Cushing was opening the door to more and more movies using digital reproductions of dead actors.
“I don’t imagine that happening,” Mr. Knoll said. “This was done for very solid and defendable story reasons. This is a character that is very important to telling this kind of story.”
He added: “It is extremely labor-intensive and expensive to do. I don’t imagine anybody engaging in this kind of thing in a casual manner.”
If “Star Wars” films are still made in 50 or 100 years, Mr. Knoll said audiences would probably not see likenesses of Mark Hamill or Harrison Ford playing Luke Skywalker or Han Solo. (He noted that the actor Alden Ehrenreich had already been cast to play the young Han Solo in a coming film about that character.)
“We’re not planning on doing this digital re-creation extensively from now on,” Mr. Knoll said. “It just made sense for this particular movie.”
Ryan Parker wrote:"Personally, for me, it is hard to imagine that people would accept it, but who knows. The technology now is amazing."
Ivan Reitman made headlines over the weekend at San Diego Comic-Con, where the producer/director said there may be another live action Ghostbusters down the road.
Reitman made the comment while discussing possible projects in a panel related to the beloved franchise, which included "wonderful plans for an animated feature that we're deep in design on already and a really great story ... And of course a new live-action film. I am not giving any more secrets," he said.
Screen Rant reported that Reitman was asked during the panel if any consideration was given to creating a CG version of any of the original cast, which would include the late Harold Ramis for Egon, if the possible fourth film changed gears from the 2016 female-led reboot, to which the director said "It’s possible … it’s something we’re thinking of."
On Monday, Ramis' daughter, Violet Ramis Stiel, told Heat Vision she was aware of Reitman's comments over the weekend.
"It's bizarre," Ramis Stiel said of the possible digital re-creation of her late father. "Personally, for me, it is hard to imagine that people would accept it, but who knows. The technology now is amazing."
Ramis died in 2014 at the age of 69. In 2016, his daughter penned a touching essay about growing up with her dad on the sets of movies like Ghostbusters.
Bringing actors back from the dead for a film has been somewhat controversial. When the legendary Peter Cushing was re-created for Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, some fans praised how far technology had come to allow the effect to happen and to look so eerily great. But there were others who said it was disrespectful to the late actor. The Cushing estate gave its blessing for the endeavor.
The original stars of Ghostbusters have talked for decades about a possible third installment to follow up Ghostbusters (1984) and Ghosbusters II (1989). Those have yet to materialize, but the 2016 reboot was a commercial bomb. It's unclear how serious talks of a third film starring the original cast really are.
Ramis Stiel said if — and it may be a huge if, who really knows — another Ghostbusters is made and her father is digitally added, it would be OK with her as long as the work is exceptional.
"I try to think what would he have thought," she said. "If it's great and it works, then good. And if there is a problem, then obviously no."
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