Peven wrote:sooooooo, if anyone took notice of the clip from the new season that was part of the HBO promo during halftime of the college national championship game you'll see that there was actually a pretty big reveal. while everyone has been focused on the Dani-Sansa face to face the more important thing revealed in the scene was that Jorah is still alive and has made it to Winterfell. in case you forgot, the last we saw Jorah he was on the wall with Tormund when the Night King's new dragon blasted it apart so it wasn't clear whether had survived or not, and since we see now that he survived it is a reasonable assumption that Tormund survived as well.
so sorry wrote:Peven wrote:sooooooo, if anyone took notice of the clip from the new season that was part of the HBO promo during halftime of the college national championship game you'll see that there was actually a pretty big reveal. while everyone has been focused on the Dani-Sansa face to face the more important thing revealed in the scene was that Jorah is still alive and has made it to Winterfell. in case you forgot, the last we saw Jorah he was on the wall with Tormund when the Night King's new dragon blasted it apart so it wasn't clear whether had survived or not, and since we see now that he survived it is a reasonable assumption that Tormund survived as well.
Nope, that was Beric Dondarrion up on the wall with Tormond. Jorah left with his Queen.
so sorry wrote:Peven wrote:sooooooo, if anyone took notice of the clip from the new season that was part of the HBO promo during halftime of the college national championship game you'll see that there was actually a pretty big reveal. while everyone has been focused on the Dani-Sansa face to face the more important thing revealed in the scene was that Jorah is still alive and has made it to Winterfell. in case you forgot, the last we saw Jorah he was on the wall with Tormund when the Night King's new dragon blasted it apart so it wasn't clear whether had survived or not, and since we see now that he survived it is a reasonable assumption that Tormund survived as well.
Nope, that was Beric Dondarrion up on the wall with Tormond. Jorah left with his Queen.
so sorry wrote:
TheBaxter wrote:so sorry wrote:
that teaser has got to be the cheesiest thing this show has ever produced.
Fievel wrote:Some people think that the single feather in the beginning represents Bran as the 3-Eyed Raven.
Peven wrote:i think it is a mistake to attempt any deciphering of hidden clues that aren't there. I can only imagine the fun they had making this teaser, chortling and giggling to themselves as they were packing in as many false leads as possible to send fans chasing their tails.
Peven wrote:i think it is a mistake to attempt any deciphering of hidden clues that aren't there. I can only imagine the fun they had making this teaser, chortling and giggling to themselves as they were packing in as many false leads as possible to send fans chasing their tails.
so sorry wrote:Peven wrote:i think it is a mistake to attempt any deciphering of hidden clues that aren't there. I can only imagine the fun they had making this teaser, chortling and giggling to themselves as they were packing in as many false leads as possible to send fans chasing their tails.
Well that's the whole point of this teaser. To titillate the fans, keep them engaged and thinking while in show-hiatus.
Peven wrote:except that any thinking fan won't waste any time or energy wondering what it all means. teasers like this remind me that the general public are completely simple-minded and gullible
so sorry wrote:Peven wrote:except that any thinking fan won't waste any time or energy wondering what it all means. teasers like this remind me that the general public are completely simple-minded and gullible
I guess GoT biggest fans all voted for Trump, huh?
zzzzzzzzzz whatever, this is a boring trailer that shows nothing and I may as well not have seen it roll on boring people like you who overanalyse things WRONGLY into just a dull simple shot. IT'S JUST SHIPS!!!!! Get over it! It means nothing! God you're such a pleb!so sorry wrote:I just had a thought/theory.
Early in the trailer is a shot of Euron's ships, ferrying the Golden Company from across the sea to fight Cersei's battle against Jon/Dany.
In the books, the Golden Company is run by Jon Connington and the supposed son or Rhagar Targaryan. Obviouszzzzzzzzzzzzzz
so sorry wrote:I just had a thought/theory.
Early in the trailer is a shot of Euron's ships, ferrying the Golden Company from across the sea to fight Cersei's battle against Jon/Dany.
In the books, the Golden Company is run by Jon Connington and the supposed son or Rhagar Targaryan. Obviously they aren't going to introduce another Targ at this point, but I'm thinking that what happens is the Golden Company lands, and immediately declares for House Targ, to be revealed that their captain is Jon Connington, right hand man and best fried of Rhagar.
TheBaxter wrote:so sorry wrote:I just had a thought/theory.
Early in the trailer is a shot of Euron's ships, ferrying the Golden Company from across the sea to fight Cersei's battle against Jon/Dany.
In the books, the Golden Company is run by Jon Connington and the supposed son or Rhagar Targaryan. Obviously they aren't going to introduce another Targ at this point, but I'm thinking that what happens is the Golden Company lands, and immediately declares for House Targ, to be revealed that their captain is Jon Connington, right hand man and best fried of Rhagar.
nice idea, but i think Jon Connington suddenly showing up in this series is about as likely as finding out the Night King is married to Lady Stoneheart and that they're actually coming to fight for the North against Cersei.
“We made a choice to just get on with it last season,” coexecutive producer Bryan Cogman said. “You can sit at home and do the math on how long it took to get the boats from Point A to Point B and whatever that was, yeah, that’s what it was. There’s always something everybody has got to graft on to and I guess that outrage was better than others, so I’ll take it.”
Ribbons wrote:Producers' response to Game of Thrones' pacing issues last year? "Fuck you, nerds."“We made a choice to just get on with it last season,” coexecutive producer Bryan Cogman said. “You can sit at home and do the math on how long it took to get the boats from Point A to Point B and whatever that was, yeah, that’s what it was. There’s always something everybody has got to graft on to and I guess that outrage was better than others, so I’ll take it.”
Peven wrote:Yeah, the flying dragons were probably the most realistic and believable part of the world Martin created right after the white walkers and children of the forest........
Peven wrote: for me it's strengths and weaknesses rest on how well it does that as a one hour long serial, not on how closely it resembles the books it is based on.
Peven wrote:come on, like a lot of fantasy Martin cheats all the time with "magic" that hasn't been established yet in the story to further the plot. that is the freedom fantasy wroters have, they can make shit up as they go and write it off as "magic". pardon my adherence to the established meaning of words in the english language, if you had used "consistent with the rules he had established" instead of "realistic" or "believable" then what you said would have made more sense.
Ribbons wrote:Peven wrote:come on, like a lot of fantasy Martin cheats all the time with "magic" that hasn't been established yet in the story to further the plot. that is the freedom fantasy wroters have, they can make shit up as they go and write it off as "magic". pardon my adherence to the established meaning of words in the english language, if you had used "consistent with the rules he had established" instead of "realistic" or "believable" then what you said would have made more sense.
I've never understood this argument. There's a difference between magical/surreal elements and lapses in logic, and it's not hard to tell which is which. Dragons and zombies and hobos or whatever are easily acceptable fantasy components; boats and horses that function like normal boats and horses suddenly being able to travel at warp speed with no given explanation? Not so much.
Peven wrote: what about Dany only having the ability to survive fire that one time in the books?:
Ribbons wrote:Is she not fireproof? I kind of just assumed she was.
Peven wrote:Ribbons wrote:Peven wrote:come on, like a lot of fantasy Martin cheats all the time with "magic" that hasn't been established yet in the story to further the plot. that is the freedom fantasy wroters have, they can make shit up as they go and write it off as "magic". pardon my adherence to the established meaning of words in the english language, if you had used "consistent with the rules he had established" instead of "realistic" or "believable" then what you said would have made more sense.
I've never understood this argument. There's a difference between magical/surreal elements and lapses in logic, and it's not hard to tell which is which. Dragons and zombies and hobos or whatever are easily acceptable fantasy components; boats and horses that function like normal boats and horses suddenly being able to travel at warp speed with no given explanation? Not so much.
you are missing the point, though, it isn't just "magic" it is how it is used. when you read a story set in "reality" you know the "rules" of that reality. when you read a fantasy you find out the rules as you go, because the authors use it as they go in the story as an easy out plot device. in short, they're making it up as they go along. what about Dany only having the ability to survive fire that one time in the books? no real explanation of how or why, no set up, nothing consistent with the rules of that world except for, you know, magic. how did they travel so far in such a short amount of time? how about a magic worm hole? better? good![]()
so sorry wrote:Bronn being hired as an assassin by Cerei is so fucking stupid. That's like asking Curly to murder Moe and Larry.
so sorry wrote:The 5 minute romantic interlude where Jon learns to fly a dragon.... come on, we ain't got time for that!
so sorry wrote:Oh, and the burning Umber boy was great!
so sorry wrote:The weapon that Arya asked Gendry to make looked like a javelin. That, my friends, is the dead-dragon killer right there.
TheBaxter wrote:this kooky dragon theory almost sounds plausible
i think there's something to the dragons resembling the people they were named after, but i dont see them being literal reincarnations of those people. more like they are symbolic reincarnations, they may embody some of the characteristics of those people but saying they actually ARE those people reincarnated as dragons, seems silly. and even if targaryens could be reincarnated as dragons, it's hard to see how a Dothraki like Khal Drogo would end up being reincarnated as a dragon, just cause he was briefly married to one... he'd be reincarnated as a stallion or something.
Wolfpack wrote:The next episode will just be characters exchanging knowing glances.
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