Mel Gibson's Apocalypto (Now with Waldo? Page 4)

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With 10 being the best and 1 being the worst, how would you rate Mel Gibson's Apocalypto?

10
4
9%
9
11
23%
8
12
26%
7
4
9%
6
4
9%
5
3
6%
4
3
6%
3
1
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2
0
No votes
1
0
No votes
I'm waiting for DVD / TV
3
6%
Ancient sugartits and SPLATTERMAYAN!! action aren't my thing...
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4%
 
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Mel Gibson's Apocalypto (Now with Waldo? Page 4)

Postby jordan on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:21 am

Don't flame me, but I do not have the trailer. Entertainment Tonight aired the thing today and I expected it to be on this website or themoviebox.net by now, but it's not. Any links anyone has for this???

The trailer IS OUT.
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Postby Ribbons on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:24 am

You don't have the trailer?!

B4NN3D!!!!

No, it's cool. I didn't even know it had appeared on ET until you mentioned it, so no worries. I do want to check it out though, so hopefully the release pops up online soon.
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Postby jordan on Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:46 am

Well, http://www.themoviebox.net/trailers has a preview of the trailer for the movie.

Pathetic I know, but ya...
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Postby Keepcoolbutcare on Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:44 am

you can also find it HERE.

I mean, it's obvious that ALL Apocalypto news would be in the Beard of Gibson thread, right?

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Postby Ribbons on Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:46 am

Looks like there's a lot of CGI in this one.
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Postby neo_wolf on Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:51 pm

Looks good.
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Postby Airstrike on Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:22 am

A GOLDEN GOD!!!!!!!
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:35 pm

Seriously, I highly recommend you go back and watch this trailer and frame-by-frame it about 3/4 of the way through.
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Postby Tubbs Tattsyrup on Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:41 pm

That is the creepiest thing I have ever, ever seen in a trailer.

A big W T fucking F on that one.
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Postby Pacino86845 on Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:42 pm

Haha, I can't believe that's in the trailer!!! Mel Gibson is hilarious!!!
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:45 pm

IPAMPILASH!

I heard people going on about how hilarious his cameo was, but I had no idea it was that hilarious. Just him in his regular clothes with a Smokey Thingie and a shit-eating grin. Nicely played, Mel.
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Postby docfalken on Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:46 pm

Redemption in one frame. Well done Mr. Gibson.
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Postby You Know My Name on Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:57 pm

How do you see this frame in the trailer?
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Postby thomasgaffney on Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:58 pm

You Know My Name wrote:How do you see this frame in the trailer?


About 3/4 of the way through. Or around the 1:40 mark. You have to pause the trailer, then (if you use Quicktime) hit the arrow on the right to advance the trailer slowly, frame-by-frame. It works and you won't be able to miss it this way.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:05 pm

Here's my suggestion. Pause it right when the yawning monkey appears and go backwards frame-by-frame. It's pretty close. Threw me for a loop the first time I saw it.
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Postby You Know My Name on Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:06 pm

I don't have that function on my QT player.
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Postby Ribbons on Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:07 pm

You mean you can't pause it? If you can't pause it, you're not gonna be able to see it.
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Postby You Know My Name on Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:08 pm

Ok, I see it. I was looking in the wrong place.
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:46 pm

Here's an interesting article from TIME on the film.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1174684-1,00.html
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Postby Carolian on Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:50 pm

This movie looks absolutely fascinating, and it's an area that hasn't been represented very much (if at all?) on film. Come on, Gibson! All the signs point to "awesome", so don't you disappoint!

And thanks for the heads-up on that article, LS, it was pretty damn interesting.
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:50 am

Great Article.

I have very high hopes for this film, could turn out to be the film of the year.
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Postby Tubbs Tattsyrup on Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:50 am

It was in the opening montage for the Oscars, too. I saw him in *those* clothes...and I nearly PAMPed.
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Postby Dark Knight on Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:58 am

Those guys with all the white powder creep me out for some very odd reason.

So, is this gonna be as huge as Passion of the Christ?
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:05 am

No way is this going to be as huge as The Passion but I think it might be a hell of a lot better and will hopefully still be successful with the message about decadant Societies and blindly following Leaders causing the destruction of Civilisations getting through loud and clear.

It almost seems like something Mallick would do.
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Postby tapehead on Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:11 am

The Time article is pretty good - He's not the most predictable guy and this looks to be very far away from the concerns of the Passion - I'm looking forward to it
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:13 am

John-Locke wrote:It almost seems like something Mallick would do.


It does seem like that, doesn't it? They even played the trailer
before THE NEW WORLD.

Although PASSION freaked me out with its outrageously offensive
anti-semeitism, the gore in it was very affecting and disturbing.
Of course, the splatterfilmness coupled with the anti-semetism
completely obliterated the moral lessons of the Christ narrative,
the most important part of the story, but it was still a visual feast;
not to mention the worlds first Religio-Splatterfilm.

That being said, I'm definately intrigued by APOCALYPTO.
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:22 am

See I didn't find The Passion to be anti-semetism, just because you Critisise a Jew doesn't make you anti-semetism in my eyes, all people are open for critisism.

I've only seen it once and thought it was quite good, not great but maybe I missed something.
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:35 am

John-Locke wrote:See I didn't find The Passion to be anti-semetism, just because you Critisise a Jew doesn't make you anti-semetism in my eyes, all people are open for critisism.

I've only seen it once and thought it was quite good, not great but maybe I missed something.


The anti-semetism comes through in the revisionism.

In Gibson's film, the Romans -- the guys who actually killed
Christ NOT the Jews -- are portrayed as noble and self-sacrificing
soldiers burdened with conscience, while the Jewish people are
all portrayed as leperous monsters leering and literally hissing
like subhuman beasts. They seem to have no indvidiuality; just
a mass of beastmen.

In addition, he's not criticizing one person for their individual
faults, but an entire race for what he (and his father, the
unapologetic nazi sympathizer) seems to believe was a crime
they committed. This, of course skippping over the historical
reality; the Romans killed Christ because he was viewed as
a terrorist / rabble rouser in a very unstable region; a region
that the Romans had a tenuous control over...

This is why the film comes across as anti-semetic. Whether or
not that was Gibson's intention, I don't know. But given what
we know about his background and his fathers beliefs... well,
some truths are revealed no matter how hard some people may
try to cover them up, aren't they?
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Postby John-Locke on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:50 am

Fair enough, I'll have to watch it again one day and see If I agree, I thought there were two Historical versions of what might have happened anyway.

I've heard Gibson trying to distance himself from his Dads views before too.

Anyway I honestly don't want to start another Passion debate, I just needed a little reminder as I always stayed out of the TB's because finding interesting posts was an exercise in futility.

I knew you'd tell me the arguement in a clear and concise way Zombie, thanks.
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Postby Flumm on Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:59 am

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Postby Vegeta on Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:14 am

I saw a trailer for this at V and if I remember right 16 Blocks. Looks good, Mel will likely be getting some of my $$$ come August.
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Postby so sorry on Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:16 pm

so i just watched this trailer for the first time (don't know how i missed it before).
what the fuck was Mel doing in that trailer? Its meant to be a joke right?
seems kinda stupid to do that, considering that its a serious movie about the downfall of a civilization (at least, that was my take on it).
what gives Mel?
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Postby MasterWhedon on Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:08 pm

I'm excited that this sucker is shooting on the Genesis camera. Superman looks gorgeous, as did the early footage for this. I'll most definitely be checking this one out.
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:00 am

ZombieZoneSolutions wrote:
John-Locke wrote:See I didn't find The Passion to be anti-semetism, just because you Critisise a Jew doesn't make you anti-semetism in my eyes, all people are open for critisism.

I've only seen it once and thought it was quite good, not great but maybe I missed something.


The anti-semetism comes through in the revisionism.

In Gibson's film, the Romans -- the guys who actually killed
Christ NOT the Jews -- are portrayed as noble and self-sacrificing
soldiers burdened with conscience, while the Jewish people are
all portrayed as leperous monsters leering and literally hissing
like subhuman beasts. They seem to have no indvidiuality; just
a mass of beastmen.

In addition, he's not criticizing one person for their individual
faults, but an entire race for what he (and his father, the
unapologetic nazi sympathizer) seems to believe was a crime
they committed. This, of course skippping over the historical
reality; the Romans killed Christ because he was viewed as
a terrorist / rabble rouser in a very unstable region; a region
that the Romans had a tenuous control over...

This is why the film comes across as anti-semetic. Whether or
not that was Gibson's intention, I don't know. But given what
we know about his background and his fathers beliefs... well,
some truths are revealed no matter how hard some people may
try to cover them up, aren't they?


I call bullshit. I think the Romans were portrayed in a far more negative way than the Jews in the film. FAR MORE. They are almost evil caricatures.

As for that Time article on Apocalypto:

Mel: "After what I experienced with The Passion, I frankly don't give a flying fuck about much of what those critics think."


Gibson has been careful to build Mesoamerican goodwill for Apocalypto: two-thirds of the cast and crew are Mexican, and Gibson has donated $1 million to communities in Veracruz state affected by Hurricane Stan last year.

Mr. Gibson... you sir, kick ass.
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Postby tapehead on Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:05 am

^^ yeah, love his agenda or hate it, it's hard not to dig the guy's attitude
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:10 am

"Maya prophecy says the current world, which began 5,000 years ago, will end in 2012. So, even if Apocalypto flops, Gibson will at least have given the Maya one last chance to get the word out."

SHIT.

I hate reading shit like that. I remember there was one that was really popular that it was going down on May 5, 1999. Thank God that didn't happen.

I'm reading Good Omens right now, by the way. Excellent read, dealing with this exact topic.
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Postby tapehead on Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:27 am

Yeah I've read about the Mayan calender before - apparently it's based on the Earth's relative position to other varius planets, suns and heavenly bodies, and is in many ways more sophisticated and complex than the one we all use today - 'the current world' ending in 2012, whilst not to be taken literally, should be watched with interest

those Mayans were heavy, dude


edit: and surely it's 'APOCALYPTO', not 'APOCOLYPTO'
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Postby Lady Sheridan on Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:12 am

Remember, that's how The X-Files ended too, with Mulder claiming the Mayans were right and that was the day the world would end.
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Postby tapehead on Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:15 am

:shock: - ok, now I'm getting scared
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Postby Nachokoolaid on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:05 am

tapehead wrote::shock: - ok, now I'm getting scared


Because, if it was on a fairly decent television show with an impressive cult following, we know it to be truth.

AND HOW COME I CAN'T FIX MY FUCKING AVATAR!!!!
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Postby AtomicHyperbole on Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:58 am

Because you need to link to an offsite URL. There's a whole thread devoted to forum issues which tells you how! ;)
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Postby Evil Hobbit on Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:45 am

Nachokoolaid wrote:
tapehead wrote::shock: - ok, now I'm getting scared


Because, if it was on a fairly decent television show with an impressive cult following, we know it to be truth.



I fucking hate the final x files episode. It was so fucking lame, with the flashbacks and then such a lamer then lame lameass climax. Oeh the world's gonna end fucking hell, then show it ending. They better fix it in the never to be released x-files the movie 2.

About Apocalypto, looks like we will get some extreme gory scenes of human sacrifices. The thing is, even with the Passion Gibson didn't went over the top, or at least, he made it believable. Well, maybe the bird picking the guys eyes out wasn't very subtle, but still, it had an authentic feel around it. Just like braveheart had. Can't wait to see this film, Gibson is a brilliant filmmaker imho and a very hilarious fella. Can't wait for his new acting work either. Specially the one with Donner at the helm and I can't wait to see him go badass in that flick from Antoine Fuqua. That's why he has (had) the beard and all. He goes undercover at a motorcycle gang!
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Postby The Vicar on Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:07 am

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Is Mel going to be in The Saddam Hussein Story?

And the title of this film sounds more like a dance than a movie.

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Postby Lady Sheridan on Tue May 09, 2006 6:46 pm

Here's a blurb from Entertainment Weekly which answers my question "So, exactly what IS the plot of this thing?"

Last time the world saw The Passion of the Christ mastermind Mel Gibson, he was promoting his mystery-shrouded spectacle, Apocalypto, on the Academy Awards. Standing with limestone-powder-coated extras from the Mayan-language epic, he delivered a verbose explanation in Yucatec Maya for why he wouldn't be hosting the show. The English subtitle read simply, ''Not me.''

Gibson's witty turn may have stoked anticipation for the movie's August release, but now, just two months later, Disney has shifted the opening to Dec. 8. That move puts the film — which has been shooting for a Werner Herzog-ian six months in a remote Mexican jungle — in a slot normally reserved for blockbusters and big-time Oscar contenders.

So will Apocalypto deliver the goods? Gibson, 50, is keeping the plot details secret, but here's what we know: The story takes place in the late 15th century. Village leaders bent on human sacrifice take Apocalypto's hero, Jaguar Paw (played by newcomer Rudy Youngblood), from his wife and child. He escapes and is chased through the jungle, setting off on a quest for justice and a reunion with his family that features action, a healthy amount of gore, and, of course, subtitles.

If that sounds like a Braveheart-style winning formula — and sources certainly enthuse over early footage — a few questions still linger over the project. The Passion may have grossed $612 million worldwide, but it also sparked a controversy that tarnished Gibson's image in some Hollywood circles; and it's unclear whether a bloody Mayan epic will represent a reengagement with the film community or a walk farther out on a limb. Then there are the mounting delays. According to people close to the production, the director has lost significant time to the inexperience of his cast, the bulk of whom he found in Mexico.

There's at least one party that doesn't seem worried: Disney. The studio remains upbeat about the project, which reportedly costs less than $50 million. ''Mel showed us footage that blew us away,'' says Oren Aviv, Disney's chief creative officer, who traveled to the set in March. ''Apocalypto has the chance to get critical recognition.'' In other words, there's a team of linguists in Burbank right now working on how to say ''for your consideration'' in Yucatec Maya.

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Postby LeFlambeur on Tue May 09, 2006 7:02 pm

Im kind of excited about this movie. I get the feeling it's either going to be a major success or a magnificent failure. Either way, I think I'll see it.
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Postby Pops Freshenmeyer on Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:26 pm

just posted this in the EFBR but this might be the more appropo thread:

looks like Disney's shopping around Apocalypto

http://tinyurl.com/mnr6f
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Postby The Vicar on Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:31 pm

So, should we all turn up at a showing of Apocalypto drunk?
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Postby ZombieZoneSolutions on Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:09 pm

Ha ha! Awesome! Mel "Goebbels" Gibson's career is over.

But I'm sure theres some neo-nazi group out there that will fund his next
anti-semetic screed.

SPLATTERCHRIST 2: The Revenge

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